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Rumely Oil Pull Starting Tank Radiator

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Dean

05-25-2004 20:20:08




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Hello. Does anyone out there have the dimensions for a gasoline starting tank for a 16-30 model H Oil Pull? What is the diameter, length, and do the ends have a "dish" contour to them? Do they dish in or out?
Also, I think the radiator leaks. Are there gaskets in between each individual cooling wafer? Are they easily replaced? I will also post this message on the AC discussion forum. Thank you in advance.

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Craig

05-28-2004 22:35:02




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 Re: Rumely Oil Pull Starting Tank Radiator in reply to Dean, 05-25-2004 20:20:08  
If the cooler is leaking you will know it! Is the cooling oil level low? Thre are gaskets between each radiator section and YES they are a HUGE pain to change. Don't even THINK of using a thicker gasket 'cause you'll never get the cooler put back together. Odie Garfield has gasket sets. Ray Slabough may have an ad at the link I am providing. He makes gasoline starting tanks and pumps. Good luck--you're gonna need it!!! ;-) Craig www.andersonofrosholt.com

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Dean

05-29-2004 05:53:59




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 Re: Re: Rumely Oil Pull Starting Tank Radiator in reply to Craig, 05-28-2004 22:35:02  
Hello Craig, Thank you very much. I also posted on the A.C. forum and got a link to this same site.

Right now I am only going by my Dad's recollection from 40+ years ago on whether or not it was actually leaking. I have not filled it with oil yet to see. Wanted to avoid the mess in case I do end up taking it apart.

I talked to Brian at Odie's, and he was very helpful. I have a set of gaskets coming my way in case I need them.

I am first going to try to pressure check the entire thing. Brian instucted me how to check each sheet, but I am going to see if any evident problem persists without taking it apart first. After removing the two large stay bolts, I made block off plates to go over each hole (4 total). In one of them, I drilled and tapped a hole for an air chuck to snap onto. I connected each pair with a piece of 36" all thread rod.

Then I put a "dab" of silicone over each vent hole at the top of every sheet. (I will be able to pull it loose after my test.) Sometime today (time permitting), I will regulate my compressor down to 5 psi, connect my quick coupling, and check for leaks with a spray bottle of soapy water.

I have no idea whether or not this method will work or not, but if it proves successful it might save me from pulling the radiator apart. It not, well, I have gaskets coming in the mail. I understand your point about not using a thicker gasket. There isn't much room for error.

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Craig

05-29-2004 17:42:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Rumely Oil Pull Starting Tank Radiato in reply to Dean, 05-29-2004 05:53:59  
Actually there is NO room for error! I think even 5psi is a little bit high but that's how I tested the sheets on my 20-35. There were no vent holes in those sheets and I don't believe my 30-60 S has them either. Maybe that's one more difference between the heavy and lightweights. A Hart Parr 30-60 we did has vented cooler panels. The soap test should tell the story. With any luck you will not have to take the cooler apart--a miserable job. Post back!! Craig

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Dean

05-29-2004 20:10:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Rumely Oil Pull Starting Tank Rad in reply to Craig, 05-29-2004 17:42:28  
Today I plugged in my air hose regulated to 5 psi. The front gasket and the rear gasket on the top had minimal bubbles. When I tried it again later to show my wife what I was doing, the front one had quit leaking. I'm not sure why, but I'm not complaining.

Whether or not this is enough to allow oil to seep out, I'm not sure, but I think I am going to try it. Obviously, air is thinner than oil, so the viscosity may be enough to prevent it from leaking. Along with the fact that it won't be carrying a 5 psi pressure.

Another relavent fact is the caps I made to cover the ends are just flat with rubber bonded to them. They are not "cup" shaped like the caps on the original stay bolts. They do not provide proper clamping like the original caps will.

I don't have much to lose by filling it with oil and checking for leaks. I can always drain it out if I need to.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Lightweights have an extra tank out front to allow for expansion, which would explain why they are not vented?

The gaskets arrived today from Odie's just in case...

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Craig

05-29-2004 21:54:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rumely Oil Pull Starting Tank in reply to Dean, 05-29-2004 20:10:25  
I think you are one lucky dude! There may have been some crud in the gasket area and the air just pushed it into the "leak". I think you are going to be fine shape when things are all properly tightened. OTH: hot oil will seep through a stone, practically!! I have heard that plain Black Pepper has been used to seal small leaks. Remember to not overfill with cooling oil! Craig



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Dean

05-30-2004 09:40:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rumely Oil Pull Starting T in reply to Craig, 05-29-2004 21:54:47  
Craig, is the oil at the proper level when it just comes out of the petcock above the pump? Does it hold about 15 gallons?

By the way, I checked out your website last night. I must say, I am very impressed!!! It didn't take me long to realize I was conferring with an expert here. Is that by chance some of Wendell Kelch's stuff in the photos? I don't know him personally, but I have seen his tractors at Rushville and Yellow Springs, OH.

By putting pepper in one of these tractors won't make it "sneeze" more often will it ? :)

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Pat Rivers-Bowerman

06-01-2004 19:17:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rumely Oil Pull Starti in reply to Dean, 05-30-2004 09:40:33  
Hello All:

The Rumely Oil Pull caught my eye.

Every one, who loves old tractors, should have a look at Craig's Machine Shop 'Site - there are some wonderful early, early, Internal Combustion Engine tractors - repeating it from earlier Post:

www.andersonofrosholt.com

Nope, I am not getting a commission - I am from way up in Atlantic Canada, with a weakness for great old machinery...

Cheers
Pat from New Brunswick

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Craig

06-03-2004 12:52:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rumely Oil Pull St in reply to Pat Rivers-Bowerman, 06-01-2004 19:17:40  
What a GREAT compliment!!!! THANKS!!
I'm going to try and update it again shortly.
Craig



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