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Pat Bogan

03-11-2004 22:11:42




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Anyone familiar w/ A Troy built tiller forum to ask questions about a particular function on the 8HP Model. Tiller is not pulling itself as it should.

Thks Pat




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joe

03-22-2004 17:12:56




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 Re: TroyBuilt in reply to Pat Bogan, 03-11-2004 22:11:42  
Check for proper belt tension, proper gear oil level, or for bronze flings in gear oil,(which would mean bronze drive gear is damaged.)



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AZ Jack

03-15-2004 20:14:57




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 Re: TroyBuilt in reply to Pat Bogan, 03-11-2004 22:11:42  
Came on your post late, have been out of town. Sounds like your belt is slipping and needs adjustment or replacement. Do you know more about what year it is. Mine is a 7 HP however the drive is the same as your 8HP. I doubt that you have the cone clutch as that goes back pretty far and I believe is for reverse only. What exactly is it doing? Squealing, slipping under load or under no load. There are shear pins in the wheel hub to axle connection also. Let me know more detail-I have the book on mine yet-maybe we can work it out. Jack

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Craig

03-13-2004 21:06:10




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 Re: TroyBuilt in reply to Pat Bogan, 03-11-2004 22:11:42  
I trust this is an older tiller. I was trying to help another person with the same problem. They named the various sizes after horses. There is, I was told, a Colt(?) Pony (for sure) and the Horse. Outside of a slipping cone clutch about the only other possibility is a worn out worm/worm gear ass'y. I suppose the wheels could be slipping on the axle but that would be a stretch. The way to identify it, besides the HP, is the torque tube is either welded or threaded. I DID find a really knowledgable dealer here in Wisconsin who really knew these things! Good luck.

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jdemaris

03-12-2004 06:16:39




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 Re: TroyBuilt in reply to Pat Bogan, 03-11-2004 22:11:42  
You can try the garden tractor forum, but what exactly is the problem? Troy built 8 horse tiller is a pretty simple machine. Not a particularly good one, either - as far as I'm concerned. I think the Ariens Rocket was built much better - but never received the hype the Troybuilt gets. At least with the Rocket, you can run the wheel-drive with the tiller drive disconnected.



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Robert in W. Mi

03-28-2004 18:20:14




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 Re: Re: TroyBuilt in reply to jdemaris, 03-12-2004 06:16:39  
I agree! Our Troy was waaay over rated!! "If" i was buying today, i'd get the BCS!! It's a MUCH better machine/design, probaby the best tiller made!! Robert



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jeff

03-27-2004 00:46:59




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 Re: Re: TroyBuilt in reply to jdemaris, 03-12-2004 06:16:39  
NO-NO-NO! I will put in $.02 here and tell you a real goofy thing to look for. I rebuilt my Horse two years ago from the ground up with a new 8hp engine ,paint, belts etc. It had always pulled funny or to the side when tilling. Guess what I found. The outer most set of tines on the left side were BACKWARDS form the factory! NEAT hu? The sharp side should face the back when the tine is on the bottom. Check all 16 of them! Jeff

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Mike B

03-30-2004 15:31:59




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 Re: Re: Re: TroyBuilt in reply to jeff, 03-27-2004 00:46:59  
Looking for a source for a short block, used engine, rebuilt engine or new engine for my TroyBuilt "Junior" (M0121640)tiller. Threw a rod through the side. Has a Tecumseh HS40-55580K engine. Anyone have any ideas.

TY
MB



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jdemaris

03-27-2004 05:55:45




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 Re: Re: Re: TroyBuilt in reply to jeff, 03-27-2004 00:46:59  
I fully understand the theory-of-operation for a tined rototiller, including proper direction of rotation - it's pretty obvious. I operate a farm, but still use garden sized tillers for small plots where a full size tractors makes too much of a mess. My reference was to the fact that all the 7 and 8 horse Troybuilts that I've seen provide no disconnect for the tiller drive that is separate from the wheel drive. So, when transporting via wheel power, the tiller must be left engaged. The transmissions are also geared too fast for use in hard stoney soil - especially if you wish to run at full engine speed, i.e. 3600 R.P.M. They also use belts insead of real clutches. Cheap design all around. I've got several garden sized tillers that DO provide separate disconnects, e.g. the Ariens Rocket, Rototiller (actual brand name) B-6, and probably the best in the market, the BCS. I also have a 6 footer that is PTO powered, but that's a different story. I live near Troy, New York and kind of get a laugh with the hyperbole-based advertising about the Troy-built 'tillers, especially the ads with some old lady tilling her garden and holding her machine with one hand. Might actually happen in a garden that has nice, stone free, loamy and/or pretilled sandy soil - but in my area, forget it! That old lady would have a stroke! Machine jumps all over H*ll unless you run the engine at low RPM. Now, to actually get that 8 horsepower, you need to be running the engine at 3600 RPM. When running at that speed, the tiller runs way too fast for tough soil, even in low range. I've got no complaints about the durability of the Troybuilt, just the design. There are others engineered much better. I used to work as a mechanic for a rental place, and we had a virtual fleet of tillers and sod-cutters. We gave up renting Troybuilts and changed over to Honda when they became available in the late 70s, along with BCS which, in my opinion, is miles ahead of Troybuilt, yet can be had in the same price range.

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tom

04-07-2004 18:28:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TroyBuilt in reply to jdemaris, 03-27-2004 05:55:45  
does anyone know where to get a set of hardened tines for a horse at a reasonable price? Also is there a trick to keep the tine shaft seals from developing leaks, or is it normal to have to replace them every few years?



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Ben

05-08-2004 20:02:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TroyBuilt in reply to tom, 04-07-2004 18:28:45  
Yes, I just got a set off of ebay.
HEAVY DUTY BOLO TINES TROY BILT HORSE , PONY , ECONO
TROY BILT CUSTOM TILLING H/DUTY BOLO TINES, NEW IN BOX Item number: 4300844759



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