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Paul G

03-27-2002 17:04:06




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I went to a tractor pull and saw several Massey-Fergusons and Oliver tractors with Detroit Diesel power. John Deere's sound great idling but the two stroke diesel was the most wicked sounding thing I had ever heard. Where can I learn more about the tractors or the engines themselves. If it runs I know someone out there is trying to make it run faster and I want to talk to these people who know more than I do. Any info will be appreciated.

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Ken Williams

03-27-2002 21:36:14




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 Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Paul G, 03-27-2002 17:04:06  
Paul, Yes you indeed see Oliver and Massey tractors with General Motor Diesel (Detroit) engines. To be more specific, what you could see was Oliver Super 99s, Oliver 990's, and Oliver 995's, with the GM 3-71 engine. Also you could see a Massey Ferguson 98 tractor ( Built by the Oliver Corp.) with the same GM 3-71 engine. The Oliver S99's started production in about the middle 1950's. The Oliver 990 and 995, and the MF 98 started production in the later 1950's, and continued until the early 1960's. Oliver also built their model 1900 and 1950 tractors, using a GM 4-53 engine. More information can be found on this web site, under the Oliver heading, and on various other "Oliver" web sites. I hope this information helps you.

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Brandon Bosman

09-13-2003 17:42:32




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 Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Ken Williams, 03-27-2002 21:36:14  
I was reading up on the 3-71 gm diesal motors and i found that during the 50's, Case had a 3-71 GM Diesel conversion kit for their La Model. i thought that was interesting



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Jason Wiseman

05-19-2005 18:47:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Brandon Bosman, 09-13-2003 17:42:32  
yes, my dad has a la case with the 371 detroit diesel, and all the numbers match. we also have 2 oliver super 99 gm's



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Redtractorman

03-27-2002 20:57:57




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 Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Paul G, 03-27-2002 17:04:06  
John Deere had a 2 cylinder detroit diesel in the 435



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A.P.

04-03-2002 17:06:15




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 Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Redtractorman, 03-27-2002 20:57:57  
The Detroit Diesel was also used in the Deere's first big modern four wheel drive (8010?). They were also used in other tractors over the years and it was a popular repower engine for tractors of all mkes in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Ther are a fair number of case LA's and JD 5010/5020's still running around with them.

Take care,
A.P.



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Paul G

03-28-2002 06:05:19




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 Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Redtractorman, 03-27-2002 20:57:57  
Were these engines unsuccessfulin tractor applications? I understand that these engines were not really designed for max torque output but were very well suited for extended running at steady throttle. I noticed while at the tractor pull that any one who had a Detroit would lose traction and spin the tires. All of the other tractors would chug down and stop. The Deere's putt-putt's would get further and further apart until finally it was all done. Often times the Deere's outpulled the Detroit's, but I just think the Detroit's were awesome. I like all of them, dont think I'm downing a Deere by any means. More info?

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A.P.

04-03-2002 17:02:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Paul G, 03-28-2002 06:05:19  
paul they actually were made to run flat out under a full load. They aren't the greatest at lugging but they aren't as bad as some people would lead you to beleive. they do pull well when setup correctly whetehr stock or modified. they tend to be heavier than the later model diesels of the same horsepower.

Take care,
A.P.



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A.P.

04-03-2002 17:02:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Paul G, 03-28-2002 06:05:19  
paul they actually were made to run flat out under a full load. They aren't the greatest at lugging but they aren't as bad as some people would lead you to beleive. they do pull well when setup correctly whetehr stock or modified. they tend to be heavier than the later model diesels of the same horsepower.

Take care,
A.P.



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Redtractorman

03-28-2002 08:06:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Paul G, 03-28-2002 06:05:19  
I don't know much more than they built them and there are not many around,the one's I've seen for sale are very expensive.



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Cosper Tractor/Burleson,Texas

03-27-2002 19:15:57




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 Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Paul G, 03-27-2002 17:04:06  
Probably a old 6V92 from a old greyhound buss or old freight truck.
I had several Detroits back in the 60's, 70's and early 80's B4 Detroit came out with a inline 6 cylinder (60 series).
The old 238's and 318's sure did sound pretty under a load.
You can probably locate one in a wrecking yard that has old freight trucks in them for pretty reasonable.
Donald M. Cosper Cosper Tractor and Implement.
Burleson, Texas

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Paul G

03-27-2002 19:55:16




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 Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Cosper Tractor/Burleson,Texas, 03-27-2002 19:15:57  
The ones that I saw were 3-71's in the Massey's which I know were early 50's and there were several of them. Everyone who had one said that they were original but grossly modified. The Oliver tractors that I saw were equipped with 4-53's. I have seen several of these. They are huge tractors. I am sure that these are stock and I believe they are from the early 60's. Any more info? Thanks for your reply.

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George Eddy

03-28-2002 19:46:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Detroit Diesels in reply to Paul G, 03-27-2002 19:55:16  
As a kid my father had 6-71 on irigation engines the oldest one they purchased in 1939 it was a flat gasket series no fire ring and 2 valves per cylinder and once a year you could bet it would blow head gasket. My J.D. 435 has the 2-53 , it was restored and now use it for parades and tractor shows. can send you pic of 435 just send e-mail address



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