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Super 55 Ignition

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Super 55 in Ind

12-09-2007 17:31:00




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I have a 1957 Super 55, 12V, positive ground. It started to run rough cold and cut out. I suspected it was the points since the choke does not seem to help and I haven't even opened the cap since buying it six months ago. When I inspected the points, they were pitted and burned. I noticed the coil is a Napa replacement and does not have resistance across the primary circuit. Should this tractor have a ballast resitor or built in resistance in the coil? With the tractor running, the voltage at the coil is the same as system voltage, most cars cut the voltage back. I am going to buy new points, but don't want to burn them. Thanks for any input.

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John T

12-10-2007 04:43:01




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 Re: Super 55 Ignition in reply to Super 55 in Indiana, 12-09-2007 17:31:00  
Super, You ask if your 12 volt tractor should have a Ballast Resistor and the correct answer is IT DEPENDS, heres the real deal:

A 12 volt tractor needs EITHER:

a) A full true 12 volt coil (some call internally ballasted)

OR

b) A 6 volt coil with an added external series voltage dropping (12 to 6) Ballast Resistor wired AFTER the Ignition Switch but BEFORE n ahead of the Coils input (NOT to distributor) terminal. Note thats wired in series with and before the coil NOT paralell across its terminals

Nowwwww ww a full true no ballast required 12 volt coil may be labeled "12 volts" or "12 volts NOT for use with external ballast resistor" HOWEVER if its labeled "12 volts for use with (or requires) an external ballast resistor" its in reality a 6 volt coil and indeed does require the ballast just like it says on the label.

Next if its not labeled heres how to tell: A 6 volt coils primary resistance as measured between its lil + and - terminals is around 1.25 to 2 ohms while a 12 volt is more like 2.5 to 3.5 ohms.

If a coil runs so hot you can barely lay your hand on it theres a good chance its an unballasted 6 volt coil on a 12 volt tractor which will also cause the points to burn up very soon and badly.

Last NOTE: A coil runs more efficient and will deliver more spark energy if its wired at the correct polarity: For a neg ground that means its lil + is wired to the ignition switch while its lil - wires to the distributor. For Pos ground reverse that.

Hope this helps.

John T in Indiana

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J Schwiebert

12-09-2007 18:04:18




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 Re: Super 55 Ignition in reply to Super 55 in Indiana, 12-09-2007 17:31:00  
Well the 12 volt coil should have an internal resistor. If the voltage is not dropping at the distributor with the engine warm I would add the external resistor. Also make sure the coil is hooked up with the correct polarity. J.



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