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Plowing in So., Il.

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Boco

10-16-2007 18:46:08




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Hi all, a friend from work are trying to have are own fun with plowing. We both have changed pionts to try to get are plows to go in the ground. There is just enough moisture to tell when ground turns over. Went out to brothers farm fired up the 4-210 with 450 5-16's new points, and shins and it still won't go in but about 6 inches and it brings up good moisture. Adjusted front crank and bolt at tall wheel al the way in, no load on tractor but would like to see more dirt turn over. It is on end of field, and just wondering if it's from not being plowed in several years and compaction on the end. Not like it use to be. Boco

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Boco

10-18-2007 07:26:44




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 Re: Plowing in So., Il. in reply to Boco, 10-16-2007 18:46:08  
Hi Oliverguy, where are you located? I'm in Saine Co. in Eldorado, rained yesterday and last night. I'll try to get some pics but will have to get some help to get them on here. Here theres not very much plowing done any more, not even that much chisel plowing, notill to work with programs have changed alot around here in the last 20 years. Nefew at 28 has never bottom plowed. Plow ends ounce in awhile to keep them level and make drains open in certain fields. Plow are just put back in barns where it takes time to get them out. I'll work on pics. Boco

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Boco

10-18-2007 06:51:42




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 Re: Plowing in So., Il. in reply to Boco, 10-16-2007 18:46:08  
Hi all again, typed third time, pulled6x16's with 1950-T, plow has the 6x6 beam, 566 Ithink. then the 6x18 or 20 inch thats a568 again Ithink, it has a 8x8 beam, pulled it with a 4630 in furrow then put an onland hitch from a White plow but don't remember # of that one, had to make a V wedge to bolted the front cross tube to the pull beam, but it was nice to set level and not to take dual off all the time. 4'210 should pull 6 or 7 bottoms depending on soil condition and type (and how fast you like to drive). Boco

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fort67

10-17-2007 19:15:20




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 Re: Plowing in So., Il. in reply to Boco, 10-16-2007 18:46:08  
Little dry there? Remember one year in PA. it got real dry we were using 4x16 int. plow also a john deere 5 bottom and a int. 440 3 bottom. We were able to plow most fields. Had a hard time keeping any of the plows in the ground. One 3 acre field none of the plows would stick. My dad went and 8n or the ferguson 20 (can't remember which) with 2 bottom dearborn plow. I laughed. He asked me how deep do you want to bury them. thought he was joking. He plowed the whole field and the plow never even attempted to come up unless he raised them. He said its not always about weight but about geometry of how the plow is set up and most old plows relied on that. Fond memory of childhood. have a great Day

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hd6gtom

10-17-2007 12:45:23




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 Re: Plowing in So., Il. in reply to Boco, 10-16-2007 18:46:08  
Last spring was plowing with IHC 540 4X16's. It was "extreemly" hard and dry-old alfafa sod. I put new lay's on it and had a hard time keeping it from going too deep. It was all the ol 1800 wanted. Dad had a new AC plow in 1955, he hooked a stump with it. Must have sprung it because he could not get it to plow in hard ground after that. I dont know if there is any way of checking you'r plow. Dad bought another plow like he had and it worked fine.

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Dave Sherburne NY

10-17-2007 06:46:23




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 Re: Plowing in So., Il. in reply to Boco, 10-16-2007 18:46:08  
It probably is caused by the dry soil and compaction
We had a dry year in Wi, and had a hard time getting
the plow to go in the ground. The plow was 7 bottoms
and was hooked to the JD4850 year around, never
unhooked worked fine most of the time. We could plow
cornstalks under most of the time but then in a different field or part of a field it would plug not
often tho so it wasn't discouraging. Now in NY on my SIL farm we use a 3 bottom and
on one of his fields it will plow fine til we get
to the hard dry gravel then it comes right out of the ground.

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OliverGuy

10-17-2007 05:45:49




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 Re: Plowing in So., Il. in reply to Boco, 10-16-2007 18:46:08  
Can you post a pic of this setup? Haven't seen a plow on a 210 before. How many bottoms you think it could pull? My uncle said he pulled his 7 (maybe 6?) bottom with his 2255. I wonder if mine has enough umph to pull that? You may think I'm crazy, but my 1850 gasser pulls my Oliver 5-14" plow not too bad. It sure likes the gas though. I think someone may have gone through it before me and juiced it up a little.

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