Oliver Backhoe?

Len

It has a spin on filter with 3/4" threads.
The loader is a Ware Model 778 ser#1196

Thanks Al

: Len

: It has a spin on filter with 3/4" threads.
: The loader is a Ware Model 778 ser#1196

: Thanks Al
Al, sounds to me like you can feel confident it's a 1600. Len

Al -

What is the serial number (on plate attached at the bottom of the instrument panel support casting)?

I have a similar 1600 Industrial with a bucket loader and a gas engine. It apparently had a backhoe at one time, but the hoe had been removed before I aquired it. It's a solid tractor, but the transmission reverser (called "Reverse-o-torque" or something) has given me fits for years.

Bob

: Al -

: What is the serial number (on plate attached at the bottom of the instrument panel support casting)?

: I have a similar 1600 Industrial with a bucket loader and a gas engine. It apparently had a backhoe at one time, but the hoe had been removed before I aquired it. It's a solid tractor, but the transmission reverser (called "Reverse-o-torque" or something) has given me fits for years.

: Bob

Bob

The serial number is missing.
any other suggestions?

Al

: : Al -

: : What is the serial number (on plate attached at the bottom of the instrument panel support casting)?

: : I have a similar 1600 Industrial with a bucket loader and a gas engine. It apparently had a backhoe at one time, but the hoe had been removed before I aquired it. It's a solid tractor, but the transmission reverser (called "Reverse-o-torque" or something) has given me fits for years.

: : Bob

: Bob

: The serial number is missing.
: any other suggestions?

: Al

Check and see if the engine is an indirect injection or a direct injection diesel. The direct injection engine would place the tractor as a late model 1650. the indirect injection would mean it could be a 1600 or early 1650. Note that the industrial models had different model numbers, i.e. 2-78 and 4-78 for example. The 4-78 had front wheel assist. If you get a casting number off of the block we should be able to come up with a year that the engine was built. I hope this helps.

: : : Al -

: : : What is the serial number (on plate attached at the bottom of the instrument panel support casting)?

: : : I have a similar 1600 Industrial with a bucket loader and a gas engine. It apparently had a backhoe at one time, but the hoe had been removed before I aquired it. It's a solid tractor, but the transmission reverser (called "Reverse-o-torque" or something) has given me fits for years.

: : : Bob

: : Bob

: : The serial number is missing.
: : any other suggestions?

: : Al

: Check and see if the engine is an indirect injection or a direct injection diesel. The direct injection engine would place the tractor as a late model 1650. the indirect injection would mean it could be a 1600 or early 1650. Note that the industrial models had different model numbers, i.e. 2-78 and 4-78 for example. The 4-78 had front wheel assist. If you get a casting number off of the block we should be able to come up with a year that the engine was built. I hope this helps.

Allen
I'm not sure whether the injectors are direct or indirect injection. The injector pump is a Roosa Master. The casting numbers on the left side of the engine are 185220-F and 104306A. I believe that the power steering uint is a Gemmer type.

Thanks Al

: : Al -

: : What is the serial number (on plate attached at the bottom of the instrument panel support casting)?

: : I have a similar 1600 Industrial with a bucket loader and a gas engine. It apparently had a backhoe at one time, but the hoe had been removed before I aquired it. It's a solid tractor, but the transmission reverser (called "Reverse-o-torque" or something) has given me fits for years.

: : Bob

: Bob

: The serial number is missing.
: any other suggestions?

: Al

Al -

Not sure how to ID positively without the tag.
Below is a brief description of my '63 model 1600):
- 6 cyl engine - same as in the 1650 ag tractor
- 6 speed main trans - double "H" pattern without reverse gears
- "Reverse-o-torque" shuttle reverser (no clutch - 2 pedals on right side select fwd and reverse AND control the throttle)
- 2 brake pedals on LEFT side of operator
- Cessna power steering pump - belt driven from front of engine
- Main hydraulic pump driven off front end of crankshaft
- No factory drawbar or rear PTO
- 900x20 front tires - 18.4(?)x30 rears
- One-piece radiator grille insert made of heavy perforated steel plate

Bob

: : : Al -

: : : What is the serial number (on plate attached at the bottom of the instrument panel support casting)?

: : : I have a similar 1600 Industrial with a bucket loader and a gas engine. It apparently had a backhoe at one time, but the hoe had been removed before I aquired it. It's a solid tractor, but the transmission reverser (called "Reverse-o-torque" or something) has given me fits for years.

: : : Bob

: : Bob

: : The serial number is missing.
: : any other suggestions?

: : Al

: Al -

: Not sure how to ID positively without the tag.
: Below is a brief description of my '63 model 1600):
: - 6 cyl engine - same as in the 1650 ag tractor
: - 6 speed main trans - double "H" pattern without : reverse gears
: - "Reverse-o-torque" shuttle reverser (no clutch -
: 2 pedals on right side select fwd and reverse
: AND control the throttle)
: - 2 brake pedals on LEFT side of operator
: - Cessna power steering pump - belt driven from
: front of engine
: - Main hydraulic pump driven off front end of : crankshaft
: - No factory drawbar or rear PTO
: - 900x20 front tires - 18.4(?)x30 rears
: - One-piece radiator grille insert made of heavy
: perforated steel plate

: Bob
Bob
My tractor is similiar to your description.
I have been looking for serial numbers on the
engine. I steamed cleaned the entire tractor,
removed the hoe and loader. I am going to strip
it down and repaint it and fix some of the broken
welds on the hoe etc. I ordered a book on Oliver
tractors. Perhaps it will shed some light on
the mystery.
Al

: : : : Al -

: : : : What is the serial number (on plate attached at the bottom of the instrument panel support casting)?

: : : : I have a similar 1600 Industrial with a bucket loader and a gas engine. It apparently had a backhoe at one time, but the hoe had been removed before I aquired it. It's a solid tractor, but the transmission reverser (called "Reverse-o-torque" or something) has given me fits for years.

: : : : Bob

: : : Bob

: : : The serial number is missing.
: : : any other suggestions?

: : : Al

: : Al -

: : Not sure how to ID positively without the tag.
: : Below is a brief description of my '63 model 1600):
: : - 6 cyl engine - same as in the 1650 ag tractor
: : - 6 speed main trans - double "H" pattern without : : reverse gears
: : - "Reverse-o-torque" shuttle reverser (no clutch -
: : 2 pedals on right side select fwd and reverse
: : AND control the throttle)
: : - 2 brake pedals on LEFT side of operator
: : - Cessna power steering pump - belt driven from
: : front of engine
: : - Main hydraulic pump driven off front end of : : crankshaft
: : - No factory drawbar or rear PTO
: : - 900x20 front tires - 18.4(?)x30 rears
: : - One-piece radiator grille insert made of heavy
: : perforated steel plate

: : Bob
: Bob
: My tractor is similiar to your description.
: I have been looking for serial numbers on the
: engine. I steamed cleaned the entire tractor,
: removed the hoe and loader. I am going to strip
: it down and repaint it and fix some of the broken
: welds on the hoe etc. I ordered a book on Oliver
: tractors. Perhaps it will shed some light on
: the mystery.
: Al

Al -
I'll take a closer look at mine for other ID tags, ect. this weekend. I know there's one on the shuttle transmission, but am uncertain about the main tranny, motor, etc. If I find anything that looks helpful I'll let you know.
Bob