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Hot Super 88

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Ohio88

08-03-2007 18:24:24




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I have a super 88 Deisel. The engine was rebuilt, radiator recored, new water pump and Thermostat. When under load it wants to get hot. Pulling a 15 foot bush hog in wheat stubble and weeds in a hilly field it has power enough to pull it in 4th but gets hot very quick. In third it runs just under the the red as long as it has enough down hill to cool off.
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Ohio88

08-04-2007 07:38:37




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 Re: Hot Super 88 in reply to Ohio88, 08-03-2007 18:24:24  
The pulley is shinny all the way down.

There is a 1650 at the farm and it doesnot get warm under similar conditions.

Also is it normal for these tractors to not want to start when they are hot?



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J Schwiebert

08-04-2007 08:55:49




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 Re: Hot Super 88 in reply to Ohio88, 08-04-2007 07:38:37  
1. Your pulley should not be shinny on the bottom. It is wore out.
2.The 1650 has probably 12 to 15 more horsepower than the Super 88. I think you are chopping (ground speed) faster with the Super 88 than what I normally drive with a 130 H. P. on a 14 foot chopper.
3. Explain: It does not turn over well or there is no smoke out of the pipe? If is the latter and you want to repair it you need a rebuilt head in the injection pump. Avcerage cost $800. 00. J.

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Ohio88

08-04-2007 06:40:18




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 Re: Hot Super 88 in reply to Ohio88, 08-03-2007 18:24:24  
The radiator cap and gauge are new. I have not checked the temperature with a thermometer. Did not replace the pulley. The belt is tight, I will check the shine the next trip to the farm. The Injection pump and injectors were rebuild by Northwest Injection in Columbus Grove when the motor was rebuilt. The timing was set by flow timing the pump. It came out just as the marks should accordingto the book. No black smoke except under very heavy load. The engine gets warm when there is no smoke.

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evielboweviel

08-04-2007 07:05:20




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 Re: Hot Super 88 in reply to Ohio88, 08-04-2007 06:40:18  
if you are doing this in the 90 degree weather we are having I would consider it normal.
get a infra red heat detector at Harbor Freight, cheap. when she is running hot check the temp on the top of the radiator and on the water outlet along with the tstat housing.
my 1650 did the same thing for years pulling a harrowgator or plowing. power to pull but can't keep it cool when it heats up outside. had to shift down as air temps went up. nothing like a cool morning in the 40's when sun is rising pulled good then but by noon at 70 was downshifting
ron

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J Schwiebert

08-04-2007 05:59:26




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 Re: Hot Super 88 in reply to Ohio88, 08-03-2007 18:24:24  
Do you loose any coolant? Did you replace the pulley on the water pump? Does the fan belt run in the bottom of the water pump pulley and leave it with a nice shine? When pulling do you see a lot of black smoke out of the exhaust? Did the former owner turn up the fuel? Have you checked pump timing? Did you stick a thermometer in the radiator? If not tell your wife to get a candy thermometer the next time she goes to Wallmart. They work good for things like that. Did you have the pressure cap checked? Your turn: J.

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Tramway Guy

08-03-2007 18:38:12




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 Re: Hot Super 88 in reply to Ohio88, 08-03-2007 18:24:24  
Have you checked the actual temperature with something besides the gauge? The reason I ask is because it may be faulty...
Try a different gauge, preferably one with degree markings.



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