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Oliver, Row Crop 77

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Bucke

07-16-2007 13:40:59




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I have been left a Oliver, model # Row Crop 77, ser # 3300 74 C77D. I am trying to gain some very basic info. at this time. The tractor has been sitting for about 12-15 years. My goal is to get it started and moving under power. I just ordered the 3 different manuals and will start working on it in about 3 wks. My guess is the Oliver is a 1951 or older and gas ?? How can I find out ? I would like not to do a total rebuild at this time but also do not want to create to much added cost in the future if I decide to do a total restore. The exhaust pipe is rusted off right where it leaves the exh. manifold. I hope to change fluids/filters, plugs and a squirt of oil in each cyl. and roll it over afew times and repeat oil and then try starting it. Looking for idea"s on steps to take prior to trying to start as I have no past experience at this. Thank you in advance for any advise.

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arthur ward

07-18-2007 08:40:19




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to Bucke, 07-16-2007 13:40:59  
i wouldn't worry about those mouse nests up in the exhaust manifold. they will come out in a hurry and not come back.



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old

07-16-2007 16:26:48




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to Bucke, 07-16-2007 13:40:59  
Don't use oil in the cylinders but do use tranny fluid. Oil will not get down and around the rings but tranny fluid will. If its a 1951 or newr the serail number plate will be on the dash left hand side. If its a 1950 or older it will be on the left hand side down below the clutch pedel. Take those numbers and go to the left of this page under serial numbers and you can find what year it is

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Bucke

07-18-2007 08:23:33




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to old, 07-16-2007 16:26:48  
Thank you Old, I will use tranny oil, makes a lot of CENTS. Can you reccomend how much oil and still get it to fire ?

Serial #/model # tag is on right side down on frame from seat position. My serial # does not match the list, 3300 74 C77D = 300 ? maybe.

Will it cause any problems for the engine, trying to run with out exh. pipe from manifold up ?, other than more brain damage.

I would guess some water and probably mice/nests have gotton in thru exh. manifold. Is there any thing I should check as a result of this before cranking over ? I was going to try a coat hanger probe and shop vac. on top of manifold for mice an nests.

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old

07-18-2007 09:27:43




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to Bucke, 07-18-2007 08:23:33  
What I do is fill the cylinders with tranny fluid. Then after a few days I pull the plugs back out, always put them back in to keep dirt etc out of the cylinders. I then turn the engine over a few times to clear the tranny fluid out of them, that also takes out a lot of dirt etc that may have gotten in them. I would not run it long with out at least a sright pipe on the manifold for a few reasons, 1 it can be hard on the valves, 2 its hard on the ears, and 3 it can cause a fire and you don't want to burn up the tractor as soon as you get it running. I have a D-17 allis that had junk in the exhause manifold and all I did was fill the cylinders with tranny fluid and then after a few days turn it over. Almost all the junk in the exhaust flew out when I was doing that.

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Bucke

07-19-2007 08:15:50




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to old, 07-18-2007 09:27:43  
Old, thank you for the information. I will pull the plugs and fill cyl's. with tranny fliudand put plugs back in this week end and leave till following wk. end.

Would it be a good idea to pull the head cover and cover the top of the head with tranny fliud as well ?

Is there any other prep. you would reccomend for the engine or drive train other than fluid/filter change ?

I find it strange that the back tires are in great condition but the front tires are flat and falling to pieces, totally destoryed. I guess they could just be very old compared to the back tires. I will check out the radiator/coolant tank this week end, look for coolant drain. I noticed the fill/ventcap is rusted thru the top surface but hope it will still be functional.

I don't have water under pressure available at tractor location but plan to pour 5 gal. jugs of water thru to sort of flush out and see if I have visible leaks.

Is this OK or should I try something else ? Can you advise on coolant type and mix ? Darn manuals are 2-3 wks. out, hope they are the right ones!

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old

07-19-2007 09:02:40




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to Bucke, 07-19-2007 08:15:50  
On most I don't pull the valve cover off because most are in good shape and get oiled fast when you get it running. As far as fluid in the cooling system after flushing it out a 50/50 mix of anti freeze is all that is needed. Nice thing about the 77 it will out pull most other tractors in the same HP class, BTDT many times. I have a ford 841 thats rated at 45 HP and my 77 will pull circles around it

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rrlund

07-17-2007 07:44:15




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to old, 07-16-2007 16:26:48  
Wrong side old. If it's 52 up it's under the dash,51 down is on the right side below the brake,not left.



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old

07-17-2007 09:28:43




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to rrlund, 07-17-2007 07:44:15  
Your right. I went and looked at my 1950 oliver 77 and yep its on the right side. Guess I mess with to many tractors and get my left and right mixed up LOL



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rrlund

07-17-2007 13:22:56




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to old, 07-17-2007 09:28:43  
Ya really know you're loosing it when you start to forget where you parked it!!



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old

07-17-2007 08:12:06




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 Re: Oliver, Row Crop 77 in reply to rrlund, 07-17-2007 07:44:15  
I will have to go out and look but on my 1950 77 I could swear its on the left side but its also been a few years since I have even looked at it LOL



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