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Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up

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Ladder154!

07-02-2007 16:43:49

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I have a 1964 Oliver 1600 that I just bought, I changed all the fluids, and used it yesterday with my haybine, I noticed the haybine kept raising on its own, I had to keep lowering it every few seconds. Pain in the butt on this big field. I was told to turn the screw out approx: 6 turns, I did and it still raised it slowly. What do ya"ll think? Thanks again for your time and interest. PS, Live in Ohio and I am interested in buying a wide frontend for this tractor.

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B A Star

07-03-2007 21:30:55

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to Ladder154!, 07-02-2007 16:43:49

The open center system that was used on the 1600 - 1900 and followed by the 50 series has an interlock system built in the remote valves. The interlock components positively lock the fluid at both ends of a hydraulic cylinder to prevent drift (lowering).

I am assuming that the one way cylinder on your Haybine is attached mechanically so that it extends and retracts as the header moves over uneven portions in the field. As the header floats over a higher area in the field, it pulls the cylinder apart creating low or negative pressure at the base end of the cylinder. The low or negative pressure causes fluid to flow between the interlock ball and seat to fill the void in the cylinder base. When the header passes the higher portion of the field it is held up by the trapped fluid as it can not return between the interlock ball and interlock seat. Unfortunately this application is a negative for this design.

The best correction for this application is to install a power beyond spool valve that has a float position. Another solution is to Tee in a gate valve in the hose and open the valve to the reservoir, however this is clumbsy to operate as the valve has to be closed when raising the header for transport.

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J Schwiebert

07-04-2007 07:08:42

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to B A Star, 07-03-2007 21:30:55

I liked your explanation. I have not looked but I was thinking you also had to loosen the bleed screw in the cover when going to a single acting cylinder. I need to look at some valve catalogs I have from my Gresen days and that included some of there competition. Gresen also had a simple diverter valve you could make into a float valve. The things you either learn late or the things you forget when you don't do this for a long time. Have a sae fourth. J.

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90%ret'd

07-04-2007 17:36:23

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to J Schwiebert, 07-04-2007 07:08:42

John, you are correct, the interlock bleed screw needs to be backed out also,(Ladder54, that is the recessed one on the top cover on the RH side)are you using the RH remote? Also do you have an operators manual?

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90%ret'd

07-03-2007 16:42:47

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to Ladder154!, 07-02-2007 16:43:49

If you are using a single acting cylinder, you also need to back out the three point hitch disable bolt located close to the floor board about where your right heel sets.It's a 1/2 in. fine thread cap screw, back it out 5 or 6 turns. I think it also has a combination lock/seal nut on it. This will make the 3 pt. inoperative so make sure the arms are where you want them before you back out the cap screw, doing this will eliminate the pressure on the remote outlets so that a single acting cylinder will work ok. One more thing, aways connect the single acting cyl. to the right hand outlet and connect it so that it extends when you pull back on the lever, you then can use a double acting cylinder on the left hand valve if you need to without any problem.

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Ladder154!

07-03-2007 16:54:21

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to 90%ret'd, 07-03-2007 16:42:47

I understand, that screw, I did it six turns and it still went up on me, I was told to do the same to another screw (for a total of two screws), but not sure where the 2nd screw is at, under the seat somewhere? Thank you for your time and interest, good to see so many still willing to help out.

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J Schwiebert

07-02-2007 18:59:59

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to Ladder154!, 07-02-2007 16:43:49

By the way I am not the expert. We probably had close to 200 tractors out with that system and I can think of only one time we set one up for single acting hydraulics.(For mounted corn picker) Where are you in Ohio? By the way I am in Ohio also and making hay here like that is a rare sight.

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Ladder154!

07-03-2007 08:36:30

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to J Schwiebert, 07-02-2007 18:59:59

I am outside of Zanesville, in a town called Roseville, Home of the Pottery. I did try the bleeder screw (screwed it out approx: 6 times), still did not work. If you get me your email or call me, 740-819-0547 I can send you a picture of how it is plumbed. Thank you for your time. Scott

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J Schwiebert

07-02-2007 18:29:27

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to Ladder154!, 07-02-2007 16:43:49

Is this a single acting cylinder? How do you have it plumbed up? Do you also run a double acting cylinder? Did you loosen the bleed screw in the cover? Start there: J.

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Shovelman

07-02-2007 18:02:20

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Re: Oliver 1600 (Gas) Hydro Hydraulic drifting up in reply to Ladder154!, 07-02-2007 16:43:49

Now that's a coincidence...I just came in from putting the baler in the barn and planned to ask the very same question. I was baling some rounds with the 1650 & NH BR730 this afternoon and the remotes were being pressurized without touching the handle(s) - very frustrating when it would unlatch the rear door and I would have to drop an unfinished bale.....

I hope the Oliver experts on this board have an easy fix for this one.

Also, oil started leaking from the steering column on our 1655 today as well. Any ideas on what we will need for parts? Is there a seal kit available?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Scott

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