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Pros Cons of early 1650 repower

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ShepFL

05-09-2007 11:02:41

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After reading the archives it looks like a $7K plus job to repower a 1650 with Cummins.

That said my considerations are a) use existing 265 engine and 2 speed b) find & install a 283 engine & 3 speed from 1655
c) rebore and resleeve 265

If you have a limited budget and rig will only see medium duty what are your thoughts?

Thanks

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ShepFL

05-10-2007 09:52:38

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Thanks Y'all in reply to ShepFL, 05-09-2007 11:02:41

It is a 1965 model. It is WFE Dsl. More information coming once I do some other research.

I do understand that repower is spendy and not in my list of options as it will not see heavy work.

I have just read that 283 is better motor than the 265. I will weigh my options and check the tractor fund and advise of my decision. Thinking I might have to move some AC rigs or a IHC to make room for the 1650 :)

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J Schwiebert

05-10-2007 17:54:04

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Re: Thanks Y'all in reply to ShepFL, 05-10-2007 09:52:38

Shep: Where did you come up with this 265 number? All 1650 diesel tractors are 283 cubic inch. J.

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ShepFL

05-11-2007 08:14:59

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Re: Thanks Y'all in reply to J Schwiebert, 05-10-2007 17:54:04

OK
Thanks! I now stand corrected. In your opinion what is best upgrade that can be done to this motor?

I am currently looking for 3 spd to replace 2 spd.
Thanks

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Don-Wi

05-10-2007 00:04:57

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Re: Pros Cons of early 1650 repower in reply to ShepFL, 05-09-2007 11:02:41

Maybe I forgot, but what' wrong with the engine? If money is tight and the engine won't be working quite like Shep Va's, the cummins wouldn't be justified even if it did look really nice. When I rebuilt my 1600, I had 3 3/4 sleeves installed like the 1650 and 1655 use and it has a little more power now.

When I opened it up it was supposed to have 3 1/2 in. pistons due to it being a 63, but the dealer must have upgraded it before Grandpa bought it because it had 3 5/8 in it. It was the original engine and Grandpa bought it new in 64. Coulda gone to 3 7/8 yet too....

This one was a gasser- is that what yours is and you want a deisel?

Donovan from Wisconsin

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RCP

05-09-2007 13:18:17

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Re: Pros Cons of early 1650 repower in reply to ShepFL, 05-09-2007 11:02:41

We put a 283 out of an 1800 into our 1600, pretty much bolts right in, and the tranny and 2 speed can handle the power. Our engine is a gas, but a diesel would also work.

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05-09-2007 12:12:33

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Re: Pros Cons of early 1650 repower in reply to ShepFL, 05-09-2007 11:02:41

I'll keep it simple for ya, just come up to NC & buy my running 1650 diesel...
Seriously, unless you plan on working that girl pretty hard, I'm not sure a Cummins repower would pay off.

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