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Changing the front axle adjustment

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Randy as in Ran

04-18-2007 19:17:41




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Whew!!! The front axle must have been moved on my 1755 in the past 20 or so years because it only took me 4 hours to move one side out 4 inches . Beat the snot out of it and tugged it around with my Farmall M . Used a bottle jack , a high lift jack and the 4 bottom semi-mount plow to hold the tractor still but I still had to reposition the jacks about twenty times to keep from pulling it off the jacks . Got it to rotate with the help of some good hard yanks with the M and then wedged the highlift between the frame and the steering arm and beat the snot out of the spindle with a 8 pound sledge but it moved out . Now I get to tackle the other side tomorrow after work . Questions - can you drive it with only one side adjusted out ? It would really look funny but would it steer alright ? I only need it out for plowing and I got the right side out so do I need to get the other side out ? I'll need to drive it on pavement about 12 miles . Thanks ...Randy

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MikeOwi

04-18-2007 19:57:29




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 Re: Changing the front axle adjustment in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 04-18-2007 19:17:41  
Randy, we have an 1855 with a Cummins engine that we got one side to move in for 30 inch rows, but no matter what we did we couldn"t get the other to budge. Turned out it was easier to overhaul another tractor than try to make that other side move. Been that way for the last 4 years since we weren"t going to reset the one that moved. Doesn"t seem to affect driving but it looks a little bit wierd

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Randy as in Randy-IA

04-19-2007 18:58:56




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 Re: Changing the front axle adjustment in reply to MikeOwi, 04-18-2007 19:57:29  
Hi , It doesn't matter now . The other side moved even easier than the first side . Just had to beat it over with the sledge . But the tie rod didn't want to budge on this side so I had to use the high lift between the steering arm and the frame and beat on it with the trusty old sledge . It's a good thing it didn't have a nice paint job ! I think I'm going to take the whole setup apart and clean it out good and anti-seize it all . At least I'm good for plowing now ! And the tractor looks better with the wider stance even though it'll have to go back to narrow to do the hay in a month or so . That is if the grass ever gets to start growing ;) . ...Randy

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rrlund

04-19-2007 06:58:25




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 Re: Changing the front axle adjustment in reply to MikeOwi, 04-18-2007 19:57:29  
You don't know how lucky you are that you even got ONE side to move. Been trying for 6 and a half years to get my 1600 loose by running it with the clamps loose and a loader on it. Problem is,I'm trying to get mine in. We should have just traded.



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Don-Wi

04-19-2007 23:00:27




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 Re: Changing the front axle adjustment in reply to rrlund, 04-19-2007 06:58:25  
What is even funnier, is that our 1755 wouldn't clamp down tight enough and we've had the pin snap 3 times on it, on either side!! The first time was while plowing and the tire got caught in the dead forrow while going around a stump. The second time was when dad was moving big square bales with the loader and the pin just gave out. The third time I broke through some ice where we had dug out the top soil to fill in with clay for a shed. I didn't think the water was all too deep- I dropped down about a good foot. The ice was 3-4" thick. Had to wait till it melted to drag it out with the neighbor's payloader then fix it. The dealer ended up pulling the tubes out and making the slits wider with a torch, seems as though they weren't wide enough from the factory to fully clamp onto the inner tube since new... Shortly after that the engine went out.

We bought our 1855 with a welded up front end. The cast bolter on the front is all welded up, and the axel tubes are welded. Both of axel tubes broke those welds though, so I know the front axel on that is fairly loose too. Had them re-welded though when the wishbone on the axel cracked off though.


Maybe I should trade with somebody who needs a front axel that can slide in & out....

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Randy as in Randy-IA

04-19-2007 19:18:42




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 Re: Changing the front axle adjustment in reply to rrlund, 04-19-2007 06:58:25  
It took a couple of healthy tugs with the Farmall M to the front side with the plow set down on the ground to get that right side to move and then I had to run two chains out the back and through the plow to pull it backwards . I did that a number of times till I could beat it out with the sledge . I've read on here that some people have had to cut open their tubes to get them to move . That seems a little drastic but it may have been the only way . If your locating pin is still in there which it should be your tubes will never free up . The pin in my tubes was a VERY tight fit . No way was that tube going to move even a fraction of an inch with the pin in . Tonight I got the left side moved by just beating it over with the 8 pounder . Man , was I relieved ! Good Luck ...Randy

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rrlund

04-20-2007 07:18:53




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 Re: Changing the front axle adjustment in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 04-19-2007 19:18:42  
I hooked the 1850 to one side,the 2-135 to the other,used heat,PB Blaster,beat on it,nothing. Devil of it is,the ones on the 1550 and 1850 are loose,always have a little red dust from rust coming out around them. Figures.



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Randy as in Randy-IA

04-20-2007 18:51:03




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 Re: Changing the front axle adjustment in reply to rrlund, 04-20-2007 07:18:53  
I tryed to pull the first one out with the little Farmall M . All I did was pull the tractor sideways . But I only have the one extra tractor and nothing was close to where I was working that was strong enough to tie off to . I pulled to the front with the plow down in the driveway to break the right side loose . Actually I jerked it . Left some slack in the chain and hit it in second gear about half throttle three or four times before it moved . I was sure worried I was going to snap the spindle off before it moved ! Probably didn't do the tired and noisey tranny in the M any good either . I then pulled it backwards and then forwards a few times before beating it with the sledge . I sprayed PB in all the holes on each twist . But like I said the left side moved with just the BFH and about an hour of intermitent pounding . I'm going to try and take them all the way out and clean them up some and anti-seize them since the moco and plow need different spacing . Take care ...Randy

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