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SN on a 660

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schrocky

03-11-2007 11:40:39




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Long story but I need some help here...I am restoring my dads 660 ,thru some unfortunate circumstances the block has been changed from orig and the SN tag is missing ...Today while sanding I found a hand written # under the paint 100414A does this mean anything ?? Thanks for any help and info. Also if this is SN does anybody know where to get a tag ???




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dad's88

03-14-2007 14:52:57




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to schrocky, 03-11-2007 11:40:39  
David,
I have written down your information and put it in my file. If you can give me some time I will try to locate your tractor in the build cards at Charels City. It's a three hour drive so it might not be till summer but I wont forget about you.



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J Schwiebert

03-11-2007 15:27:41




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to schrocky, 03-11-2007 11:40:39  
Now before you throw in the towel, let me ask you 2 questions. Did your father purchase the tractor new? When you say it has a replacement block, does that also include the cylinder head? Remember 660 tractors did not roll down the assembly line every day. J.



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schrocky

03-13-2007 01:43:25




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to J Schwiebert, 03-11-2007 15:27:41  
John my e-mail is [email protected]



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schrocky

03-11-2007 15:44:10




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to J Schwiebert, 03-11-2007 15:27:41  
Yes he bought it new from our local dealer 1.5 mi from our farm and the closed in the mid 80's and yes they changed the block and head. I am just sick, we started working on this tractor and had some of the parts including the SN tag in a shed that burned and it must have melted. We never found any of it. Oh well any other ideas ? I am going to restore no matter what... it will be a nice tractor and probably will never leave the family...it would just be nice

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J Schwiebert

03-11-2007 16:39:16




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to schrocky, 03-11-2007 15:44:10  
I did forget to ask you two other things and I needed your reply for the one. Do you remember if the tractor had white or black decals for the 660? More important was it a diesel or a gas? If a diesel Bosch or Roosa pump. I think I have the starting serial number for the Roosa pumps somewhere yet. Also find me on the HPOCA form, have a couple more questions. J.



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schrocky

03-11-2007 17:45:54




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to J Schwiebert, 03-11-2007 16:39:16  
I will keep trying to LOG IN... it has not let me as of yet. It is a gas not Diesel..Is this not fun ?



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J Schwiebert

03-11-2007 17:56:41




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to schrocky, 03-11-2007 17:45:54  
Did you remember the color of the decals? Do you have a serial number for the hydraulic unit?



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schrocky

03-12-2007 17:15:49




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to J Schwiebert, 03-11-2007 17:56:41  
Hows come I cannot get reg on HPOCA ?? anyway yes I am sorry the decals are the smaller Black ones with a white stripe on the top of the side panel which I believe makes it a late model right ? I can get SN off the hyd unit, that is if you give me a clue where to look. Thank you so much for your interest in helping me.



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dad's88

03-12-2007 20:26:53




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to schrocky, 03-12-2007 17:15:49  
You may have one redeeming item in your favor, that being your dad bought this tractor new. I would need to know the dealership, city, and state where he purchased this tractor from. The build cards list the destination the tractor was sent to. If it went directly to the dealer from Charles City we may be able to pin it down. However, if it went to a branch first, and was pulled from branch stock or if it was a dealer transfer then we are right back to square one. The serial number for your hydraulic unit will be stamped in a machined pad on the hydraulic base by the gear shift lever. John may want that information if he has a list of serial numbers for the hydraulic units to help narrow down the year of the tractor. The hydraulic unit serial number is NOT listed on the build card though. It sounds like it would be a later model based on your description of the decals which changed in mid 1961. I do have 2 new old stock blank serial number tags, they do exist but I really do not want to sell them. If you search through the archives on this site Sherry Schaeffer has listed a source that can reproduce these tags. Or contact her at Oliver Heritage Magazine as she is the editor 217-563-8327 or e-mail at www.oliverinformation.com. Let me know if you can get the dealer information. Dad's 88

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Schrocky

03-13-2007 01:41:59




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to dad's88, 03-12-2007 20:26:53  
I should have given you my e-mail [email protected] also tractor was sold to Melvin Schrock



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schrocky

03-13-2007 01:38:01




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to dad's88, 03-12-2007 20:26:53  
The dealer was Riley Sales and Service in Goshen, In. 46526 It would have been a CR 22 address. If I am not mistaken this tractor would have to be a 62 or 63. The dealer closed in mid 80,s as did a lot of them. I will get the hyd # today sometime Thanks so much ! I do recall the dealer telling my dad he only sold 2 of these tractors and it may have been near the end of production.



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dad's88

03-14-2007 14:57:45




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to schrocky, 03-13-2007 01:38:01  
Please see post above with todays date from me.



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dad's88

03-11-2007 14:22:16




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 Re: SN on a 660 in reply to schrocky, 03-11-2007 11:40:39  
No, that's not the serial number, it's a part number. Oliver did offer replacement serial number tags but they have long been discontinued. What number would you assign to it anyway? Unless you have the original operators manual and the dealer actually filled it out you have no way of knowing what the number was. Your last bit of hope went out the window when the original engine left. Sorry you had to hear that.

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