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880 Build Card Decoding?

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Oak

03-05-2007 17:59:37




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anyone have idea of how to decode 880 Build Card? Flyd Cty Mus still has not come up with anything. was wondering if maybe super 88 where close or maybe 1600 any one have codes for those? Thanks




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Armand Tatro

03-05-2007 18:15:53




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to Oak, 03-05-2007 17:59:37  
It is my understanding that the 88 evoled into super 88 than 880 than 1800 than 1850 finally 1855. The 1600 evoled from the 66 in a like manor. If I am wrong somebody will let us know.Armand



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Mike (WA)

03-06-2007 08:32:35




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to Armand Tatro, 03-05-2007 18:15:53  
As Dad's 88 said, the 1600 was the replacement for the 880; 1550 was the replacement for the 77, and the 66 just sort of went away. By "replacement" I mean the engine size was roughly the same as the predecessor. Nothing much else was similar.



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dad's88

03-05-2007 20:48:08




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to Armand Tatro, 03-05-2007 18:15:53  
Hi Armand, The 880 didn't evolve any further. The agricultural version went out of production in June of 1962 and the 1600 became its replacement about a month or so later as a completely new tractor. The 1800 was introduced in mid 1960 as a completely new tractor.



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J Schwiebert

03-05-2007 18:06:00




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to Oak, 03-05-2007 17:59:37  
First of all what are you asking in reguard to your 880?



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Oak

03-05-2007 18:16:58




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to J Schwiebert, 03-05-2007 18:06:00  
I would like to know how tractor was equip when new. does not have power booster now but did it come with it new? What about Tires what brand tire where on them early 58. Thanks John



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dad's88

03-05-2007 20:06:07




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to Oak, 03-05-2007 18:16:58  
I read on here once that someone had 880 serial #1, is that you? The build card for that one was missing and I accidently found it one day in another file, very lucky. As far as OEM tires are concerned, in 1958 Oliver used Firestone ALL Traction Champions, Goodyear Super Sure Grip, or BF Goodrich-Silvertown Power Grip. Those were the most popular ones and your tractor could have had any of those brands. Look on your serial number tag, if there is a punch mark above the dash between the serial number and the transmission code it most likely had a power booster. The punch mark was used by mechanics to identify tractors that had gone through the big power booster overhaul program in about 1960 or 61. As far as the original equipment as assembled on this tractor when new is concerned, I don't know if they have decoded all of the information yet. But here are what the columns on the build cards represent to my understanding. Column A-style, B-engine, C-transmission, D-belt pulley, E-PTO, F-hydraulics, G-rear tires, H-rear wheel, I-rear rim, K-front tire, L-front rim, O-lights, P-hitch, 3 pt hitch, Q-auxillary transmission or clutch, U-front axle, Z-battery. There could be more and they may be different, but this is the list I have. If you had the tractor price manual from 1958 you could look up the optional equipment and match it up to the numbers in the lettered columns on the build card. I know they are trying to work that out now. You can also learn a lot about your tractor by the specification number. On the 50 series tractors the first digit refers to front end type, 1 is dual (narrow front), 2 is adjustable wide front, 3 is single front, 4 is wheatland, 5 is utility, 6 is rice, 7 is industrial 2 wheel drive, 8 is agricultural 4 wheel drive, and 9 is industrial 4 wheel drive. The 2nd digit is engine type, 1 is gas, 2 is diesel, 3 is LP gas. I have not learned how to read the older tractors specification number completely and this is all I know so far on the newer ones. Hope that helps.

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oak

03-06-2007 03:58:51




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to dad's88, 03-05-2007 20:06:07  
Could I get your Ph#s some how or email address for you and J



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J Schwiebert

03-06-2007 03:01:52




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 Re: 880 Build Card Decoding? in reply to dad's88, 03-05-2007 20:06:07  
I laughed a little about the "punch marks" That was when I started with Oliver in the fall of 1960 at the Columbus Branch. I have done a few of those. I can also remember the morning they called us down front to tell us White Motors was now the owner of Oliver. Just was reading the new magazine and I found out I worked on 2 rare 2150 tractors, a 4-144 and a 1968 2150 Cockshutt with front wheel assist. Both were purchased at Yoder & Frey which was about 12 miles away. The 4-144 plus 2 other ones came out of Florida. Also we picked up an 1800 from the branch and either the spec number was miss punched or something. According to the punched numbers it should have been a gas model. It was a diesel. It is entertaining. J.

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