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Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it Out

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MCL

03-03-2007 15:45:42




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The more I work on this thing the more I find wrong. I have decided that I have a tractor that lived a very hard life. The sludge in the engine and trans/rear end is awful. The motor needs rebuilt, the trans won't shift into the high side, all the grille parts are gone, the nose cone is beat up, and what is left is worn out. The front frame tub has even been busted and welded. I think someone started to part out this tractor then he or someone else decided to put it back together with whatever they could find. I give $1500 for it sight unseen (other than pictures) on ebay. I knew it had engine problems. I just never imagined that everything could be wrong with it.

There are several useful parts on this thing: rear tires and wheels, drawbar, 3pt hitch parts, fenders, hood, head, block, crank (needs turned), trans full of gears, new clutch and pressure plate, good pto clutch assy, etc. Just don't know if I can get most of my money back out of it. If I choose to go ahead I will every bit of what it's worth in it.

I am not new to working on antique tractors. I am just discouraged and don't know which way to go. I know nobody out there can decide that but me. Just wanted to vent a little. Thanks for listening (reading).

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JerryB

03-04-2007 17:12:37




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to MCL, 03-03-2007 15:45:42  
It is Junk. I will be there in a couple of days with $100 and a trailer to haul it away for you. ;)

Seriously, judging from what you paid for it you can afford to spend some money on it. Those little tractors are getting scarce and expensive now. Sludge is not a probem in and of itself. It is just an indicator of how the tractor was cared for (or not cared for).

If it was mine I would check the cost of used parts and figure what I would have in it to get the grears working and perhaps replaced the frame. If it still not an outlandish figure then I would fix it.

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TCnwtn

03-04-2007 16:14:11




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to MCL, 03-03-2007 15:45:42  
I am another person that bought a tractor with problems. I bought a 550 to restore for a spare ride tracor. I was in the process of getting it ready to paint when I took off the Hyd. system to fix a leak when I found the ring gear with a tooth off and the bull pinions chipped. Also had to replace the PTO discs. Now after over $800 I am back to the same place I was to in Dec. How many people would ever open the trans to check the gears. We drove it around a while and it didn't make any noise. I know now that 55's and 550 were prone to have rear end problems. Well look at all the experience and it's only money. Good luck , TC

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dad's88

03-04-2007 13:27:37




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to MCL, 03-03-2007 15:45:42  
Matt, don't get down, it'll work out. Hind sight is always 20-20. At this point I don't think anyone will chastise you if you decide to part it out. Nothing wrong with becomming an organ donor. Some must die so that others may live! Since so many of these have remained in service I'm sure it could live on through many tractors. Hard to find any being parted out around here. If you're really attached to it, go ahead and fix it. It will be all that much more rewarding to you when it's finished. BTW, I thought you did an EXCELLENT job describing the paint scheme on the White tractors a while back, re: black vs gray frame ect. We were a dealer during that time and I had to stop and think about it myself. GREAT JOB!!!!! We need to do all we can to keep the younger guy's like you involved. Who else will carry our flag? CHARLES CITY PRIDE!!!! Take care.

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MCL

03-06-2007 16:51:02




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to dad's88, 03-04-2007 13:27:37  
Don't know how young I am. How's 38 sound?



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El Toro

03-04-2007 04:29:40




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to MCL, 03-03-2007 15:45:42  
You should have that crankshaft measured for wear.
It may beyond the wear limits and can not be ground anymore. Hal



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Super 55

03-03-2007 22:39:29




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to MCL, 03-03-2007 15:45:42  
The only hard thing to find might be the nosepiece. A lot of them get beat up. Do you want to rebuild, restore or just use this tractor? It isn't hard to wokr on these tractors. Talk to Kent Gordon in Texas 903-729-8349 or email at [email protected] He parts our Super 55s. He might be able to give you some advice on wether to part out or not. He has a nosecone on there right now, along with tons of other stuff. With a 50 year old tractor you can expect to find a lot wrong with it. It's that darn ebay. Everything looks good on there. I paid a lot for a truck I thought was turnkey.. and so did the seller....It's a good truck... but not a great truck as discribed. You probably would have offered less like myself if seen in person, but it's only money and you can't take it with you. Have fun with it. It's a learning tool.

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Matt Kane

03-03-2007 16:11:14




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to MCL, 03-03-2007 15:45:42  
I bought my super 55 knowing that it would eventually need rebuilt. It had alot of new parts on it, so I bought it. He said it would make it home so halfway home it spun a bearing and busted a main cap. That left me in your situation. If I wasn"t able to get a new engine, then I had decided to part it out. I ended up paying 500 instead of 1500 for mine. I put a later 550 diesel engine in my tractor and now am very happy. This spring I will be tearing into my hydraulics. This tractor was well abused but I am very happy that I got it fixed. After using it countless times, I would have regretted parting it out. One other option, if you have external hydraulic hookup and a full factory drawbar, if you don"t need them sell them. Have this offset some of the cost to repair the tractor. Mine was an emotional rollercoaster because I had my wife on me about it at all times. Good luck in what you choose! These will bring some money in parting it out.

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rrlund

03-04-2007 10:26:07




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 Re: Super 55 Woes...Do I Fix This Thing or Part it in reply to Matt Kane, 03-03-2007 16:11:14  
I don't mean to make light of your situation,but why in the world do you guys buy such things sight unseen? I know it's not funny is it? But my gosh,not everybody is as trustworthy as all of us are. I don't know how these people who sell this stuff live with themselves. I won't even sell something without somebody looking at it first. I've advertised things in statewide farm publications and had phone calls wanting to send me a check to hold it and won't let them do it. I just don't want somebody P.O.d when they get here. On the bright side,maybe you can make somebody else think twice.

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