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Oliver 88 vs Super 88

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BDM

02-18-2007 16:41:51




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Hello all. Friend of mine is considering one of these two models. Now neither of us are Oliver educated, so what is the difference between these two models besides engine size? Are the rear axle/trans assemblies beefed up on the Super 88s? How can you distinguish an 88 from a Super 88 if no ID is evident on the tractor? Thanks for any info, looking forward to some good info :-)

Brian




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dad's88

02-18-2007 23:19:03




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 Re: Oliver 88 vs Super 88 in reply to BDM, 02-18-2007 16:41:51  
You are getting a lot of good information on here. Also see at least two other topics below this concering the same issue. A couple of things though: 88's were produced into the 1954 model year. Disc brakes were introduced on the 88 row crop at serial number 136899 in 1951. The shade of paint was made lighter in 1952. The decals, front emblem, and cast in frame stripe were all changed at about the same time in 1951. This is also when they moved the serial tag from the right side of the rear end housing to the lower left side of the insturment panel. When the Supers came out in 1954 they had an improved hydra-lectric system which did away with the hand switches on the steering column. This was a very reliable unit. The Supers had green wheels until late, late 1956 when they started painting them red again. In late January 1957 they came out with the improved Supers which included such things as the removable full width battery cover, wider drawbar, key start, 12 volt ing for gas models (diesels were always 12 volt), 4 lb pressure cooling system (diesel Supers were always 4 lb pressure systems), tachourmeter, and "OLIVER" embossed fenders. Factory power steering became an option in late 1956 and the front frame was changed to accomodate this as well as the row crop wheatland front axel option. Of course Olivers' steer so nice you really don't need power steering. The 15.5-38 tires became an option in 1957 and our Super88 had these on it. The Supers were a good 10 horse or better over the already powerful 88. In my opinion they were the best tractors available in their day. You got live pto, live hydrulics that you could change the depth stop from the seat, nobody else had THAT! In addition you got really GREAT field speeds, Bostrom Body Guard seat, a nice comfortable driving position, all in a sweet handling, pleasant riding, joy to operate machine. And you could have diesel in all sizes of Oliver tractors, something no other manufacturer could say at the time. Hope you decide to buy one, we would love to have you.

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BDM

02-19-2007 16:02:37




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 Re: Oliver 88 vs Super 88 in reply to dad's88, 02-18-2007 23:19:03  
Great info! Thanks to all. This should cover it. My bud likes most makes but has a hankering for an Oliver. I must admit, I'm an IH man by heart. But studying these Olivers the last week or so has left an impression. The 880 caught my eye ;-)

Brian



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ejr-IA.

02-18-2007 18:25:31




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 Re: Oliver 88 vs Super 88 in reply to BDM, 02-18-2007 16:41:51  
Also disk brakes and I think pressurized cooling system.



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JD hauler

02-18-2007 18:25:13




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 Re: Oliver 88 vs Super 88 in reply to BDM, 02-18-2007 16:41:51  
supers were made from 54 to 58 m they had larger axles and hubs than a regular 88 and as was mentioned earlier they have a heavier frame. they had disc brakes and the motors have more power stock for stock, I would always take a super if I had the chance, newer and the last of the 88 series.



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BRG

02-18-2007 17:55:49




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 Re: Oliver 88 vs Super 88 in reply to BDM, 02-18-2007 16:41:51  
I am new at Olivers also. I have a 1951 88RC I got last year. I love it, not any around this part of the country and people are always looking at it. Good luck; Ben



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MCL

02-18-2007 17:44:28




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 Re: Oliver 88 vs Super 88 in reply to BDM, 02-18-2007 16:41:51  
I will give this a stab. The 88 was made from 1947 to 1953. The Super 88 was made from 1954 to 1957. The 88 had 3 1/2" X 4" bore and stroke for 231 cubic inch displacement. The Super 88 had the same engine except for a 3 3/4" bore. This made the displacement 265 ci. The rod journals might be bigger. I'm not sure. An easy way to pick out a Super is look at the frame. A straight 88 only had 2 4" holes through the frame for mounting front-mount implements. A Super 88 frame had the 4" holes plus a flat pad with threaded holes beside each of them. These were for mounting either the newer style implements or the older pipe mounted implements. The Supers also had a flat pad on the front of the frame under the grille with 4 threaded bolt holes. The 88 used the louvered panels to cover the engine. Super series tractors had a different side panel that left most of the engine exposed. That doesn't help much if they are missing though. I think the rear end and transmission are the same on both models. There are some other small differences but these are some of the main ones. If I am wrong about any of this I am sure I will be corrected. Hope this helps.

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