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Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn

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MCL

12-24-2006 06:29:55




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I have birds in my barn. They perch up on the hayloader track and crap on the 1550. Anyhow, I don't know how much gun to use that won't go through the metal roof. Got enough leaks now-don't need any more. I tried a .22 rifle with birdshot. Just isn't enough pellets to do any good unless I get about 10 feet away and that just isn't an option. The next bigger gun I have is a 20 gauge. Don't know if I can use bird shot in it and not go through the roof. I know some readers out there have some experience with this. Thanks.

I did use the 20 gauge to kill pigeons in the grain bin. It made one heck of a noise. 2 birds with one shot.

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Tim Malin

01-05-2007 19:45:42




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Been hired by the neighbor to "remove" the pigeons from his silo. Well, you can shoot them as they fly out, sure, but what do you do inside? I beat on the pipe, yelled up it, crawled up the outside ladder and beat on the pipe year the top, crawled up the inside ladder and here there are 12 pigeons 10 feet above my head that won't fly out to my 12 gauge wheeling cousins outside. Chased two out, but it was amazing how I could throw silage and a pitch fork at them and still not force them out. Crawled back down, got a bunch of pea gravel, went back up, raised hell for a while, went back down defeated. Went home and got my old BB gun, the ol' Crossman pump with the missing front sight since it broke when it took a fall down the hay chute, and crawled back up the silo. Three pumps would put a small dent in the silo roof, but nothing severe. I was only about 10 feet away and guestimating shots, basically by the dent around the bird, and would wound them and they'd fall down to the silage. Was working great until a gasket in my gun blew... air would creep out after every pump, and it wouldn't even have enough to push the BB out the end... Depressing end. Don't know if I can fix it or I'll buy a new one, now it has me addicted to getting them suckers. I guess I'm a fan of the BB gun, been since I got it when I was 10 or 11, but I do like the CD idea... will be working on it.

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RonLoren

12-27-2006 11:20:01




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Not sure what the Pesticide laws are like in your state, but many ag chemical retails can get a product called Avitrol. This is an Avicide that is restricted use, but is an effective tool in controlling the bird population. Generally it is treated cracked corn, and birds will consume it, and soon die. A few dead birds, and the rest get wise, and the pack moves on. Pidgeons are alot like rats, kill the bull or boss rat, the pack moves. Need to feed this in a spot where the treated corn will not mix with desirable critters feed. Very slim chance of secondary kill from critters consuming dead birds. Good stuff, not cheap, but very effective in barns, sheds, buildings where bird food will not mix with critter feed.

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1755

12-26-2006 19:45:19




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
the last time some one ask me about this topic and I was dome founded and thought about it and come up with an idia I do alot of reloading Shot gun shells so this was not a big deal but insted of using lead use soy beans I think they would splader befor going threw the roof but I dont have any and the giy that had the problem never gave me any to try but if you use this idia be sur to try it on a spair pise of stuff simular to your roof I dont know how good it will work but might have more than 22 bird shot they will not eject from semi auto guns becous the soy beans will not have the whait

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D13

12-26-2006 07:07:04




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Use deodorized mineral spirits. Looks like water, no odor to warn them, drink it and die. Put it where the cats can't get it.

Might try denatured alcahol.

An odd version done by an old farmer by me was to use ethanol, let the birds get so drunk the couldn't fly. Then "collect" them.

BTW pigs LOVE pigeons as a food source. Feathers and all.



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B-maniac

12-26-2006 20:30:19




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to D13, 12-26-2006 07:07:04  
I guess I have to wonder what there is in our human nature that possesses us to create habitat for another living thing just to turn around and kill it for following it's natural instincts. I'm sure if you kept the barn closed when possible and screened all the holes up , you would cure the problem. When mice get into your house, do you just load up and shoot them or just keep setting traps?? OR, do you find where they are getting in and fix the holes? I would like to believe we are smarter than the creatures but this whole set of posts proves we have a long way to go. There are some who will shoot at all the male dogs that seem to come around because they are too cheap or lazy to get their female fixed.I rest my case!

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MCL

12-29-2006 08:06:44




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to B-maniac, 12-26-2006 20:30:19  
I do not provide the barn for bird use. It is for livestock shelter and machine storage. If I close it up tight then the horse and pigs can't get in now can they. Why don't you keep your left wing tree hugger comments to yourself.



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Wisconsin Cowman

12-25-2006 08:42:30




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
A good high power pelt gun works or a low power .22 would do just fine.



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fixerupper

12-24-2006 20:33:42




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Here's an idea that will take some patience and time but it pays off and if your barn doesn't have doors, this won't work. Plug all the holes in the barn! I did it and it works but not right away because they are crafty little buggers. If they have nests in there they will be real persistent. Just get out the ladder and nail wood/tin over every hole but don't plan on good results right away. Shooting them will just make room for more to perch up there. Merry Christmas, Jim

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super99

12-24-2006 16:40:49




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
The birds are in the barn setting on the hay track and repainting your 1550. How high is the track, can you get to it with a ladder or is it too high? Have seen ad's for poison perchs you can put in there and birds land on it and poison goes in thru their feet and kills then. Also have heard that if you kill a couple and hang them from rafters birds will leave. Some towns did this, hung them in the trees and that got rid of them and worked till the bunny huggers complained and they had to take them down. Then the birds came back and bunny huggers complained about bird poop again.Is your 1550 gas or diesel? Have heard that if you park a diesel in side running till barn is full of smoke that will make them leave for a while and then do it again when they come back. Hope this helps, Merry Christmas to all. Chris

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Dean Barker

12-24-2006 21:30:48




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to super99, 12-24-2006 16:40:49  
I agree with Chris about the diesel smoke driving them out. I start up an older diesel, 1655 or JD 4320, and let it run inside for about 20 minutes every 6 months. I haven't had a sparrow in either of my machine sheds for several years. Really works!!



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Superpicker

12-24-2006 16:17:42




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Some guys hang old music CD's (shiny on one side) in a building to scare birds out. Never tried it.



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Carlton Grambo

12-24-2006 16:03:59




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Walmart gets enough business. Go to a family or locally run store. Maybe even a Fleet Farm or whatever brand in your area. Even a youth model 22 rimfire with shorts work. The bird will stop the lead if hit in the breast area.



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Randy as in Randy-IA

12-24-2006 09:40:30




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
go to your local Co-op and find out how they do it . It's bad for busines to have pidgen poop in the pigs feed ya know . The local Co-op here uses a inflatable ball that looks like a owls eye , they say it works extremely good . Or a owl decoy might work too . I guess most birds are scared of owls . Our barn stays bird free because we feed the coons and birds don't like coons . ...Randy



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Izzy

12-24-2006 07:55:11




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Lay a rubber snake where they roost and move it every few days.



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old

12-24-2006 07:47:14




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Well unless you can find some very small shot then yes it will make you roof more holey. Now if you can reload the shells your self you can load them down so it will not happen but, only if you can do that. A pellet gun and a good shooter will work better but again you have to either have a spring type and a pump that isn't pumped up very much. When I say small shot I'm talking #10 or maybe #12 if you can even find it

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39f20

12-24-2006 06:38:49




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to MCL, 12-24-2006 06:29:55  
Go to Walmart, get the 150 dollar pellet gun, its powerful, killed lots of squirrels with it



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edchainsaw

12-24-2006 17:41:02




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to 39f20, 12-24-2006 06:38:49  
we've tried the snake, the ballons, the eyes, the disks.. even the wheat and Furidan mix.

most effective on the Pidgens was the 22shot shells --and dad aint closer than 40ft.

I saw you can get 22magnum shot shells for 22 winMag guns now.

I do know a 410 at 100ft messes up metal... ((ya I goofed))



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Esev

12-24-2006 20:31:37




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 Re: Off Topic-Shooting Birds in a Barn in reply to edchainsaw, 12-24-2006 17:41:02  
OK, finally a topic I know something about. Spent many of my leisure hours with an air rifle in neighborhood barns shooting varmits as a kid. We took care of Pidgeons, Starlings, Grackles, Rats, Red Squerrels, etc. etc. with a .177 cal. pump up rifle. Use the lead pellets if possible, not the bb's. More accurate. Yes, you have to be a good shot and be able to hit vitals (head/neck the best). There are some nice 5mm models available now. They can shoot through a tin roof if you pump them up too high. Five or six pumps will be effective, and shouldn't go through the roof.

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