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310...Oil in Antifreeze

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Nusbaum Farms

12-11-2006 10:26:46




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I read with interest the posts last week about oil in the antifreeze on a perkins engine...I have the same problem with my 310 (1755). Is this a common problem with an easy solution on the 310? It didn't look like it with the perkins. Better question may be, How do I locate and fix the leak? The head has been magnafluxed for cracks, none found, so I'm assuming it's the block. I was intending a complete major overhaul of this engine but may think otherwise if I cannot cure this ailment first. Any advice???

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Cal Innes

12-12-2006 16:48:43




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
Does your tractor have an oil cooler? I have a 2655 with the same problem and asked Larry Harsin and he recommended that I check the oil cooler which uses the antifreeze to cool the oil.. the cooler may have a leak. I have yet to check mine, butI am reading the replies to your question with interest. Cal



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Nusbaum Farms

12-13-2006 04:47:03




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Cal Innes, 12-12-2006 16:48:43  
No Cal, I do not have an oil cooler. But Larry's response is right on for engines that do.



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Nusbaum Farms

12-12-2006 05:19:52




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
Thanks to all. The knowledge on this board amazes me. I was planning to resleeve this engine anyway(4000 hrs) since I was also getting water in oil (just recently), but was afraid it wouldn't solve the oil in antifreeze problem. I do have considerable blow-by escaping the vent tube but maybe it was restricted enough to pressurize the crankcase and push oil into the waterjacket through the bad sleeve seals. Again thanks, and I feel better about proceeding forward. I'm sure I'll have more questions as this project progresses. FYI: I will be changing rod bolts, wrist pin bushings and adding capacity to the oil pan....all things I've learned right here.

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WFE 2

12-12-2006 03:48:01




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
How many hours on the sleeves? The culprit is very likely the o-rings at the bottom. For the labor involved, I would replace the sleeves unless you know they are nearly new anyway. Electrolysis has a way of taking its toll on these engines as well, and in some extreme cases of this phenomenon, combustion pressures can force oil through the sleeve to the outer surface where it is picked up by the flowing coolant. If they are old enough, the sleeves may be brittle and crack apart as you try to remove them. Good advice to thoroughly inspect and measure the sealing surfaces in block and research archives regarding liner protrusion and related topics for this project.

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J Schwiebert

12-11-2006 20:05:23




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
I thought about the question after I answered it. I read it too quick. Your problem is still the sealing rings on the sleeves and how is your oil pressure. New O-rings will solve the problem but it you fee unluncky and you want to check you can make a " decent pressure test of the lube system". More questions? J.



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george md

12-11-2006 15:17:35




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
The answers below are for water in the oil ,

you said you have oil in the water. Are you sure

that it is oil and not soot in the radiator?

Oil in the water should turn milky to gray

depending on how much is there.Soot will be

black and slimy and will look like black oil.

That usually comes from leaking head gasket or

perferated liner ( the liner more often ).

george

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Nusbaum Farms

12-11-2006 11:38:40




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
I sure hope you're both right, that makes me feel a lot better, but I'd hate to rebuild and have the same problem show up. Is it possible to magnaflux the block, just to be sure? I'm not afraid to spend a few more bucks for peace of mind.



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flearned

12-11-2006 11:29:30




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
I think you will find Johns answer correct. It may not seem logical for oil to leak past sleeves but it can. The problem usually occurs on engines with a lot of hours on them. Once these engines get a fresh overhaul with new sleenes and pistons the problem vanishes. Just make sure you check the lower portion of the block carefully. There are several methods of repairing this area if you find it erroded.

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kkiowa

12-11-2006 16:31:52




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to flearned, 12-11-2006 11:29:30  
That isn't uncommon for the o-rings that seal the sleeve to leak, and if that is the problem be sure to check the area where the o-rings fit , sometimes you will find the block has eroded away .



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J Schwiebert

12-11-2006 10:37:53




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 Re: 310...Oil in Antifreeze in reply to Nusbaum Farms, 12-11-2006 10:26:46  
Pull the oil pan off and fill the cooling system if you can put a little pressure on the system, then look for the leak. First quess, O-ring that seals a sleeve. J.



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