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Muggy weld rods, Do I dare??

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Steve Gerot

12-05-2006 19:12:25




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Ive been checking into lock and stitch pins for the the cracked water jacket on the ole 18-27. Seems the best but expencive and a lot of work. Was all ready to order a kit. Then today I was reading a post on the J.D. forum and they were discussing Muggy weld rods. So far it looks like an option, but Im worried because if it does not work I may not be able to use the pins after. It is supposedly guarenteed not to re-crack and is machinable

Any opinions?

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fort67

12-06-2006 17:22:32




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 Re: Muggy weld rods, Do I dare?? in reply to Steve Gerot, 12-05-2006 19:12:25  
Are you a great cast welder? Not trying to be mean here. I'm from the north we would run into cracked castings in blocks and etc. If you find a true blue welder that can weld cast you hardly ever see where it's been welded. We had one we bought with a split down the whole side. He ground and welded back in. when he was done you couldn't tell where the split was. Just my two cents. Key is PATIENCE

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george md

12-05-2006 23:05:30




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 Re: Muggy weld rods, Do I dare?? in reply to Steve Gerot, 12-05-2006 19:12:25  
Steve ,

If you weld it and it fails , you will

not be able to drill and tap it . The weld

in the fusion zone will be harder than the

drill and tap. That's why I told you to lace

that crack.

george



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J Schwiebert

12-05-2006 19:41:07




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 Re: Muggy weld rods, Do I dare?? in reply to Steve Gerot, 12-05-2006 19:12:25  
Least amount of money go with the Irontite 327 pins. A 327 pin will use a a 1/8 inch pipe tap. Drill a 3/16 inch hole at each end of the crack and see how thick the block is. J.



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Steve Gerot

12-05-2006 20:12:12




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 Re: Muggy weld rods, Do I dare?? in reply to J Schwiebert, 12-05-2006 19:41:07  
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I was pricing the lock stitch pin kits at a different Co. It was well over $100 for the kit I would need. I will call the kwik-Way Co. tomorrow. They claim that new rod does not require preheat but Im pretty sceptical. I will try to get over there and drill my depth hole in the next couple days

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Steve Gerot

12-05-2006 20:52:03




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 Re: Muggy weld rods, Do I dare?? in reply to Steve Gerot, 12-05-2006 20:12:12  
OOPs

Will call Kwik-Way about their stitch pins. I re-read my post and noticed I had worded it like they sold the rods.



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J Schwiebert

12-06-2006 14:03:21




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 Re: Muggy weld rods, Do I dare?? in reply to Steve Gerot, 12-05-2006 20:52:03  
You are not going to need a full box quanity. I would suggest buying pins some from a shop that does this type of work.



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