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990 995's ???

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Gary U in CA

10-28-2006 04:52:08




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I hardly ever see Oliver 990"s (I"ve never seen a 995).....how come?

Anyone have an idea of how many were built and what are the price ranges for one today?

Many thanks!
Gary




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oliver gets it done

11-02-2006 04:44:42




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 Re: 990 995's ??? 98s in reply to Gary U in CA, 10-28-2006 04:52:08  
the 1800 number does that include the 400 to 500 of the red and gray tractors that were built.known as the massey 98.??? sure do want one of those 995s myself have the hole 3 digit set but 1 of those. been hitting on one of my neighbors hard. he refuses to take 20000 for it in original condition. but excellent shape



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oliver fan

10-29-2006 06:54:47




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to Gary U in CA, 10-28-2006 04:52:08  
You wanted more information on the 950/990/995 tractors. The exact number of each model and the total production of all models has never been determined. The information is avalable in one form or another. I say that because they were built in South Bend, Indiana in 1958 and Charles City, Iowa from 1959 on. Of the three models I listed I am sure the 950 gas would be the hardest to find with the 995 being the next hardest. The 950 diesels (Oliver 6 cylinder) are not too common, and the 990's being the most common. This is my opinion ONLY, but that is what I have observed at shows I have been to, from New York to Oklahoma.

Of the six different model lines of tractors Oliver built from 1930 to the 1950's, (off set, utility, three row crop sizes, and the big wheatland) the 28-44, 99, Super 99, 990 and later models have not been covered very well in any magazine or book. This model line was built for more than 60 years, both by Oliver and others.

Now to answer your question, no one has had the time or energy to compile a list of how many of each model was built. Also, the reason you probably don't see too many in California is because they were not the type of tractor that was used to grow the type of crops grown there. They used either row crop, high crop, orchard, or off set/special type tractors.

As to what one is worth? That is whatever price the owner and buyer agree on.

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Gary U in CA

10-29-2006 18:00:42




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to oliver fan, 10-29-2006 06:54:47  
Thanks so much for the reply. Great insight.

I agree, its got to be hard to pin down a count if no one has documented the serial number runs.

Well, lets hope someone else reads this and shares additional knowledge.

Gary



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bradk

10-28-2006 20:45:00




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to Gary U in CA, 10-28-2006 04:52:08  
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Can't say I've ever seen a 995 in person,but I see a couple of 990's about every day in one of our sheds.Not alot of 'em out there.



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Gary U in CA

10-29-2006 05:29:21




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to bradk, 10-28-2006 20:45:00  
Thanks for the reply. Great Picture!

I've wanted to get one but just no information to go by.

Can anyone else help???

Gary



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scottf in WA

10-29-2006 20:00:43




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to Gary U in CA, 10-29-2006 05:29:21  
I know of at least one 995 in CA. If you would like to see it contact Bechthold Tractor Service in Lodi CA. A 995 is basically a 990 with the addition of a torque converter. They are very rare and very valuable. The Oliver Fan has provided good information. I estimate less than 100 ag 995 were made. I have a 995. What else would you like to know?



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Gary U in CA

10-30-2006 18:19:30




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to scottf in WA, 10-29-2006 20:00:43  
Thank's for your response.

Good feedback on the 995. The only question would be if you have any other info on the 990.

Very appreciated,
Gary



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AB

10-29-2006 20:44:37




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to scottf in WA, 10-29-2006 20:00:43  
Gary - #1 They are sought after by collectors because of their scarcity. Not many were made to begin with and for just a short time before the 1800's and 1900's came into production. In my county there were probably 200 or more 70's,77's,88's,Super 77's,Super 88's, 770's and 880's in use at that time. Only one Super 99 GM that I knew of and no 990's or 995's. #2 I believe the ones that were made were worked hard as the big plow tractor on the farm and that has played a role in their longevity. #3 They are also sought after by tractor puller enthusiasts as very few other makes of tractors of that era can hang with them on the pulling sled. Decent Super 99 GM tractors bring $7500 on up and I've seen 990's and 995's listed for as much as $20,000 and more. What they really sell for I can't say as I've never seen one sell at live auction.

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Gary U in CA

10-30-2006 18:24:27




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to AB, 10-29-2006 20:44:37  
Thank you for your email.

Ihave a better understanding of wher it fit into the history.

Anyone have a wag on how many 990's?

Gary



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995Lugmatic

10-31-2006 08:55:51




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to Gary U in CA, 10-30-2006 18:24:27  
OOH OOH, I know where a 995 is! ;)

We have 2 S99s and a 995, and a cousin has a 990. Gotta love that Detroit sound. I love these tractors.

Another reason you didn"t see them for the longest time at shows is that they are just about too damn big and heavy to haul around, unless you have a Semi.



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Gary U in CA

10-31-2006 17:06:48




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to 995Lugmatic, 10-31-2006 08:55:51  

Great email, you got me smiling!

Well, If anyone gets wind of a 990 I'd probably buy it.(don't know if a 995 is in mama's budget)

I ended up leaving both my 70's on the East coast when we moved a couple years back. A 990 or 995 would assuredly reduce my withdrawl symtoms.

Gary



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SherryS

11-01-2006 13:05:38




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to Gary U in CA, 10-31-2006 17:06:48  
According to production records, there were 1800 of the 950/990/995 series tractors built. Don't have a breakdown though.



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oliver fan

11-01-2006 15:44:09




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to SherryS, 11-01-2006 13:05:38  
How many of the 1800 were South Bend tractors and how many were Charles City tractors??? Also, what about the Massey 98? Were they included in the 1800 number?



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Gary U in CA

11-01-2006 14:38:38




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 Re: 990 995's ??? in reply to SherryS, 11-01-2006 13:05:38  
SherryS

Thank you so much for kicking out a number. Gives me a real good indicator, as compared to the tens of thousands of other tractors produced.

Spoke to a nice gentleman this morning who indicated he has seen a half dozen 990's come up for sale a year in the Oliver publications. Gives me some hope as I would like to obtain one.

Thanks for the response,
Gary



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