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2-105 got here, couple questions

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alranchNE

10-26-2006 18:55:37




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More pictures in a day or two. It got here late so I didn"t get to look at it in the light very much. "Looks" very nice to me though. First question, how does the aux fuel tank setup work, do I fill both or can I use just one once in a while? How does the heater work? Either I didn"t figure it out or it doesn"t work, I slide the one lever all the way to hot and turn on the blower, anything else? I can probably find it easily in the daylight, but I"ll ask in case someone knows right off, where is the temp gauge plug located on the engine, I don"t think that gauge works so I"ll probably change it right away, water does get hot.

It was about 45 today for a high, seemed to start a little harder than I"m used to but less than 10 seconds, sounds decent, standing next to the engine while running it seems louder than my 1855, quieter in the cab, and it drives much better. It also has a small amount of black smoke while going down the road at higher RPMs. Barely noticeable, seems to fluctuate, a little darker then lighter then back in cycles, fairly fast between the two at constant speed, but again, it can barely be seen unless you look right at it. Supposedly doesn"t use oil, according to the people that were just renting it. One last thing, I think I saw the block heater is one of those inside the side of the engine. I"ve only had the kind that are in the coolant line. Is it safe to leave it plugged in all night or only for a while? Thanks for any answers.

What is the best type of hyd. oil to use?

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thhill

10-27-2006 11:42:33




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to alranchNE, 10-26-2006 18:55:37  
Does it have the intake preheater working. Mine works exellent. Even on the coldest days. Hold it in 15 -20 sec then start it. The little block heater has a very short element. But if its working it needs to be plugged in all night.
Goodluck



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alranchNE

10-27-2006 12:16:10




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to thhill, 10-27-2006 11:42:33  
Off to a good start. I"m pretty sure the preheater works, the amps go down, but it does not start easy at all, it smokes like a cloud while cranking but does not pop over. It was 30 this morning and took a lot of cranking, preheater about one minute a few times. My 1855 wouldn"t have needed the preheater even. The engine oil is clean yet, I don"t see any blowby at all, and it starts right up when warm. Also, drove it off the truck they brought it on yesterday, into the yard directly and parked, maybe ran two minutes. Checked the hydraulic oil, and it was low two gallons. Put that in, drove it maybe five minutes, parked it for the night. I didn"t check it again, because they changed it and the filter I thought maybe they didn"t just put enough in. This morning, two gallons again. Put that in, drove it down the lane and back and it was off the stick again. I don"t see leaks that bad externally, I don"t think it leaks when not running. And I checked the rear end oil, I don"t think it"s going there, so I don"t know what to do. They said they would have the leaks fixed before they brought it, and that they would pay for that, it"s on the paperwork, so I called them, they said they would check back but nothing yet. I don"t know what"s going on yet, but it"s my typical luck. I"d look more but I think they should fix it since they said they would, otherwise I would look more what"s going on.

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Marc Smothers

10-27-2006 12:51:57




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to alranchNE, 10-27-2006 12:16:10  
Your hydraulic oil can be leaking past the seals in the Pto that fast...Mine did it once, couldn't make it to the barn fast enough.. As for the starting. My in-laws cranks forever below 45, and mine will fire right off. Now my other one that is "turned up" needs ether to start at that temperature.. Your upper fuel tank pulls fuel from the bottom tank, that is why the non-vented cap is on top. The system works the same as having fender tanks.... Excellent buy, enjoy it. Marc

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alranchNE

10-27-2006 16:51:10




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to Marc Smothers, 10-27-2006 12:51:57  
I put in a total of more than 6 gallons, not more than 30 minutes use, not using the 3point, brakes anything. I don"t see it leaking externally that bad, it does have drips underneath the back, around the control valves, and it looks like the steering pump, but I don"t see the volume. I also checked oil in the rear end again, the level has not changed. I"ve crawled underneath it while running. I don"t see anything externally around the pto. I don"t know where all the oil is going.

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Marc Smothers

10-27-2006 18:33:06




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to alranchNE, 10-27-2006 16:51:10  
Without being insulting, are you sure you're checking the right plug for the rear end oil level. There really is no where else the oil can go internally. As for externally, I would think you would see 6 gallons that fast some where. Good luck, Marc



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alranchNE

10-28-2006 09:32:46




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to Marc Smothers, 10-27-2006 18:33:06  
Figured it out I think. I am guessing the rear end must have been low on oil the first time I checked it so that it wasn"t overflowing, must have not been parked exactly level the second time. I checked it the third time, it was high then, not before. So that is the problem. They are coming to pick it up today possibly but not likely, they are "very sorry" and are going to take care of it, they had that decided before I called them back this morning.

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alranchNE

10-27-2006 19:29:12




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to Marc Smothers, 10-27-2006 18:33:06  
Yes I'm looking in the right place, as said I had an 1855, exact same thing. As I said I can't figure it out, but it only seems to go when driving, not when sitting still. I've had it parked, turned the steering, brakes, 3 point. Seems to only go when moving. I've looked where I've driven and do not see any "trail". Less than 10 minutes, down and back up the lane and that much is gone. My driveway is a little rough but I don't go fast enough to slop that much out either if there would be a leak above somehow. The rear end oil is at the check plug level, every time. The oil seems thick/normal rear end oil. The check plug is to the right of the pto, the fill plug which is also vented, to the left and top of the pto. I've parked it on the cement, it does have several small leaks after sitting, but no large amount. I don't know how to figure out some way of seeing it while I am driving, but as I said, the dealer is supposed to have the leaks fixed, and I'd call as much oil as I put in, a leak, somewhere, so I'm not going to spend much time trying to figure it out.

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alranchNE

10-27-2006 19:36:50




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to alranchNE, 10-27-2006 19:29:12  
Sitting still running the 3 point, brakes, etc. no oil is lost that I can see, but driving just running the steering wheel it does. If anyone has a suggestion let me know, hopefully though they will come and pick it up to get it fixed, but I know that won't happen until next week. I know what hydraulic oil going into the rear end acts like, that is among the list of many things wrong with my 1855, I am quite familiar with that.

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rongrong

10-26-2006 19:56:35




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to alranchNE, 10-26-2006 18:55:37  
on your aux fuel tank do you have a filler cap, if you do fill it first then the main on top, the fuel gets taken from both..stupid setup if you have only a filler cap on the top tank you are luckey,both tanks fill and empty together also.withthe first type if you fill the main tank first, fuel will run out the bottom one while you try to fill it..at least it would on ours..now the heater, look on thewater pump/thermostat housing where the heater hoses come from and look to see if there is a tap in one turn this gently out ,maybe best to soak it with penetrating oil first..the black smoke, dont worry about it this was normall on ours ,both of them as for your block heater you can leave it plugged in overnite because its not much of a heater anyway! if you are going to use it in colder weather its best to have it in a shed or procted from the wind.. good luck

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alranchNE

10-27-2006 12:18:54




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to rongrong, 10-26-2006 19:56:35  
The heater works, that"s what it was. Should have thought of that, the 1855 had a shutoff in the cab. But the heater never worked anyway in that so I never thought of it.



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alranchNE

10-26-2006 20:15:00




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 Re: 2-105 got here, couple questions in reply to rongrong, 10-26-2006 19:56:35  
Thanks. The bottom tank does have a filler cap.... But I did fill the top one first, the bottom one was about empty, so I don"t know if it would flow out like that yet. That is a little screwy to be set up that way but I"ll get used to it. Come to think of it, when I unscrewed the top one there was either pressure or vacuum in it, just heard air but quite a bit, never thought about it. I"ll check everything else out tomorrow. It will be in a shed most of the time when not in use. Nicest "looking" tractor I"ve owned I guess, newest too. Hopefully reliable.

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