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Power beyond 1855

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Jim Meade

08-26-2006 09:33:10




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The loader on my 1855 is connected to the external valves. I'd like to put in a Griessen valve and a dedicated hydraulic system. Is the only way to do that to take tap off the high pressure line that goes around the back of the casting?




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J Schwiebert

08-26-2006 12:49:48




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 Re: Power beyond 1855 in reply to Jim Meade, 08-26-2006 09:33:10  
Is this just going to be a loader tractor? If so around here people are using the 4010/4020 gas tractors for loader tractors. Of course none make hay or hace livestock and the tractor is not used for anything else.



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Jim Meade

08-26-2006 13:05:16




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 Re: Power beyond 1855 in reply to J Schwiebert, 08-26-2006 12:49:48  
I am going down to two tractors, the 1855 and a 1755 with NF. No large round bales on my NF tractor. So, it's the 1855.



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J Schwiebert

08-26-2006 12:46:53




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 Re: Power beyond 1855 in reply to Jim Meade, 08-26-2006 09:33:10  
You are taxing my memory a little bit, but that is the refered method. I am more interested in the Gresen valve. Which valve did you have in mind and how much are you going to use the loader. Remember you are going closed center here and Gresen offered several ways of going closed center and one method is better. Questons?



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Jim Meade

08-26-2006 13:03:11




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 Re: Power beyond 1855 in reply to J Schwiebert, 08-26-2006 12:46:53  
I'll buy whatever Gresen valve works best.
Figure I'll plumb it direct. Will have disconnects on the right side of the tractor ahead of the cab, so a droop in the lines is all I'll need for enough slack to back out of the loader. The loader is a White 1710. Put a steel rod through the pipe and I back out of it just like a Westendorf.
I use the loader mostly for large round bales, but also for light dirt work, as a utility bucket/carryall and for pulling posts. Not sure if I want one or two levers on the valve. Two is probably OK and I am guessing cheaper.

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J Schwiebert

08-26-2006 17:16:53




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 Re: Power beyond 1855 in reply to Jim Meade, 08-26-2006 13:03:11  
The old standard Gresen SP valve is coveted to closed center on the outlet side with a closed center plug. I had a Deere man tell me and he wanted to buy one through Deere it was Pricey. The V20 Gresen valve is more expenseve but has antidrift cartride and if you trade up to load sense hydraulics all you need to do is change the rear cover. I can send you some literature if you furnish a U. S. mail address as I am in the process of pitching some of that Gresen stuff. Questions? Also I would use a defuser on the return line and I would have an adjustable flow control on the line going to the base of the loader cylinders. J.

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rp1555

08-26-2006 14:17:10




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 Re: Power beyond 1855 in reply to Jim Meade, 08-26-2006 13:03:11  
I have an 1855 with the power beyond kit on it ,I no longer use. I put a Tee in the steel line with a quick coupler and a return in the hyd casting below that with a male tip, works great. As for the valve ,I used a single lever joy stick that came with the loader.The valve could be closed or open center by changing a plug on the side.



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Jim Meade

08-26-2006 17:13:30




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 Re: Power beyond 1855 in reply to rp1555, 08-26-2006 14:17:10  
Thanks for the info.



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