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OK now, Waukesha engines built to Oliver specs...b

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DennisT

08-17-2006 22:30:16

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So I am learning that Waukesha built their diesel engines to Oliver specs. So how did that turn out comparing the Oliver spec'd engine VS the Wauk standard engine? Better? Worse?

Did Oliver's requirements improve the Wauk?

Dennis

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steven l

08-18-2006 04:45:36

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Re: OK now, Waukesha engines built to Oliver specs in reply to DennisT, 08-17-2006 22:30:16

you got any other questions?

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J Schwiebert

08-18-2006 03:29:17

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Re: OK now, Waukesha engines built to Oliver specs in reply to DennisT, 08-17-2006 22:30:16

What exactly are you looking for? I will give you an example: The little Oliver 550 engine is a 155 cubic inch displacement. Waukesha also built a 155 cubic inch engine for Clark fork lifts for a few years. The heads are different, the blocks are different because of the fork lift applications.If you are into newer trucks and since you are out west Paccar is going to have a Paccar branded engine in a small truck. It is a Cummins built for that truck. It is different than a Cummins in a Dodge or a Cummins in a Champion road grader. Engine companies are in business to build engines. You need variations we can do it so to speak.

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Kevin R.

08-18-2006 05:47:19

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Re: OK now, Waukesha engines built to Oliver specs in reply to J Schwiebert, 08-18-2006 03:29:17

Do all 550G have the same engine? Mine was built in 1975.

Kevin R.

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DennisT

08-18-2006 07:07:15

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Re: OK now, Waukesha engines built to Oliver specs in reply to Kevin R., 08-18-2006 05:47:19

Well, first, sure I have a lot of questions. I'm new to Oliver, but most of you seem to respect the quality of their products, so I am interested in learning all I can. I'm hoping the 1550 is a well made tractor and worth caring about in spite of a few oddities of that particular model.

What am I looking for? Good question. When I heard that Wauk built to Oliver's spec., I began to wonder if Oliver had more rigid requirements, or less rigid. Did Oliver ask Wauk to cut corners on quality, inspections, quality controls or did they insist on the best of everything? I realize manufacturers build to different demands: one engine for Ag use is a little different than the same engine used in marine applications (salt water, cooling jackets, etc.). So I am interested in the quality of the Wauk's Oliver asked for. I hope this makes sense. Thanks for listening. Dennis

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RAB

08-18-2006 18:16:29

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Re: OK now, Waukesha engines built to Oliver specs in reply to DennisT, 08-18-2006 07:07:15

You wrote "more rigid requirements, or less rigid".

I would just say different. Quality specs are between the supplier and purchaser. Other things such as the cam profiles/ compression ratio/ valve size and lift/ rev range/etc. to regulate power and torque, efficiency, governor response, etc. to fit in with the rest of the tractor engineering. Only the engineers of the day would have known what little or major "adjustments" to the basic design might be needed to satisfy the buyer"s specs.
Then there might be what external shape/size the basic engine might need to allow fitting the rest of the ancillary components and any specialiised attachments.
RAB

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evielboweviel

08-18-2006 14:07:01

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Re: OK now, Waukesha engines built to Oliver specs in reply to DennisT, 08-18-2006 07:07:15

1550 has a good quality well tested motor that was around for a lot of years starting in the fleetline series. HOWEVER it is aprrox 40 years old and how it was treated and cared for is what counts now, not what it was when produced. Good care even so so care and 4000 hrs or less it will be a great tractor, good or better care and less than 6000 hrs still a good tractor. Good to great care with rebuilds as needed 15000 hrs+ is possible. Always will be something to fix on a working tractor, some oil leak, electric problem, paint needs redoing, etc.
If treated at all right you will be happy with it. Nice power to weight ratio, manuvable, good handling tractor capable of real work.
Good luck
Ron

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