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Cylinder #1 Location 540 Cockshutt 4 Cyl Continent

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farm_boy101

07-11-2006 20:42:34




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I am trying to determine if the front or rear cylinder is #1 on a Continentel F-162 4 cyl gas engine in a Cockshutt 540 Anyone??
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old cont. man

07-12-2006 23:24:09




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 Re: Cylinder #1 Location 540 Cockshutt 4 Cyl Conti in reply to farm_boy101, 07-11-2006 20:42:34  
All 4@6 cyl. in line cont. engines flat head and overhead valve engines the no.one cyl. was at the frount next too the water pump.



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RAB

07-12-2006 12:40:14




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 Re: Cylinder #1 Location 540 Cockshutt 4 Cyl Conti in reply to farm_boy101, 07-11-2006 20:42:34  
What Old means is "next to the timing gear", I think.
That was the historical arrangement on all engines, so engineers could tell immediately without having to check for every engine.
It was also standard to mark the con rods and caps by centre dotting, if they were not marked in manufacture. Either way, they were always marked on the camshaft side (ie timing), so all engineers knew which way they were to be refitted without looking in a book for each engine type. Each piston was also dotted - you guessed it - standard was front (timing end). Valves were dotted as well.
These were in days where the engines were decarbonised on a regular basis, RPMs were low and engines were relatively low tech compared to modern engines which should not be treated to being "dotted" with a centre punch.
Simple really, until non-engineers (fitters(?)) got involved and standard practice slowly went by the board, new parts were simply exchanged, then new assemblies. Now just change the whole unit as it is too costly to repair properly. Up-side to that is you get a guaranteed replacement with all tolerances at factory settings - or at least you should do!
The down-side on these old engines is that non-engineers, or even modern engineers can not work out the firing order from the cam or valve gear operation etc. All is "by the book" and if anything has been swapped from one engine to another in the past (yes, some parts were standard to more than one engine) the modern day fitter is lost.
Sorry if I am putting you with the "fitters" but if you learn the reason why, you will be able to apply the principle in the future, without having to ask every time
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old

07-11-2006 22:09:13




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 Re: Cylinder #1 Location 540 Cockshutt 4 Cyl Conti in reply to farm_boy101, 07-11-2006 20:42:34  
Well 99% of engines have the #1 plug up close to the rad. so in your case its the one up at the front. That engine was also used in a few of the MH tractors like one sitting in my shop right now



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