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Oliver 77 Diesel Restoration Cost?

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Sandhills

06-23-2006 12:26:12




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I have my grandpa"s 1953 Oliver 77 Diesel. It runs but I want to totally restore the tractor. I"m fairly mechanical, but not a mechanic. The following needs to be done.

1. Check drive train and repair any worn parts. (myself)
2. Rebuild Engine (hire done)
3. New alternator (myself)
4. Get all lights working (myself)
5. Injector pump rebuild (hire done)
6. Check out the Tricycle Front, replace worn parts. (myself)
7. Paint (hire done)

The following has been done by my dad in the past 10 years.

1. Rebuilt hydrolics
2. Rebuilt Brakes

Could you guys give me a guesstimate on the cost to do all of the above?

Thank you very much in advance.

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Sandhills

06-26-2006 09:57:56




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 Re: Oliver 77 Diesel Restoration Cost? in reply to Sandhills, 06-23-2006 12:26:12  
The injector pump leaks oil, it starts just fine when hot, need to use ether when engine is cold. My grandpa farmed 320 acres with this as his main tractor from 1953 to 1972 so it is pretty worn out. Since 1972 it has just mowed a little hay and driven corn augers, and runs quite well now for the little things I use it for, but I want to restore it mechanically and put a decent paint job on it, I knew the engine kit alone was a little over a thousand dollars, but I sure don't want to spend ten thousand.

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Don-Wi

06-23-2006 22:35:06




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 Re: Oliver 77 Diesel Restoration Cost? in reply to Sandhills, 06-23-2006 12:26:12  
With just what you plan to hire out, you could very easily be looking at $10,000+. I've got about that in my 1600 which is grandpa's tractor, and my brother did the paint job for me. Just the materials was over $1,000 for that, and if it were hired out it would have run atleast $5-6,000.

I had the engine rebuilt by an engine shop, the hydra power resealed by the Agco Dealer, and sand blasted by another guy. The sand blasting ran about $800 ($100/hr., COMPLETELY stripped down) The Hydra power another $650, and the engine was atleast another $3000. I didn't touch anything in the rear end because it didn't have any problems. Only thing I did on the back was fix the brakes.

I had to switch out the engine tub due to a crack ($375) so while I had the front axel off I replaced the bushing andturned the pivot pin over so it had a fresh surface to wear on. My dad put new tires on the back, I sponsered the fronts myself. That was about another $850-900 all the way around.

Then there's the nickel & dime stuff, other misc. but nessesary parts, new guages, the list goes on and on.

To do Grandpa's tractor right is priceless and I'm glad I did it. I'd do it again if I could track down his Hart-Parr 70 or his 77, but the 77 is gone about 25 years now (traded for our Massey 285 along with a Super C) and the 70 about 12(Didn't run but was in the shed).

Donovan from Wisconsin

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J Schwiebert

06-23-2006 13:34:35




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 Re: Oliver 77 Diesel Restoration Cost? in reply to Sandhills, 06-23-2006 12:26:12  
Rethink number 5. First of all if it runs there is nothing major wrong with your pump unless it does not start when it is HOT!. If it does that find yourself somewhere between $800 to 1000.00 If it leaks oil and or fuel with a little help you can do that with a little help. Is this a Super or a Fleetline 77?



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Jeff Oliver

06-23-2006 19:59:45




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 Re: Oliver 77 Diesel Restoration Cost? in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-23-2006 13:34:35  
Humm your statement got me thinking. Would that apply to an B series 1800 also about starting when hot? Mine did that back a few months ago. We had carried them up to the local show and I turned it off then decided to move it. It wouldn't start and acted kinda like it was flooded or something. Let it sit a little while and she fired right up.

Reason I ask if that the pump was supposed to have been rebuilt about a year ago. I hope it was considering what I paid for it. had someone else working on it and they thought that would solve the fuel in oil problem.

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J Schwiebert

06-24-2006 04:47:08




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 Re: Oliver 77 Diesel Restoration Cost? in reply to Jeff Oliver, 06-23-2006 19:59:45  
Jeff: You are dealing with two different theories on how an injection pump should work. Look at an older Oliver diesel with the PSB Bosch pump. They run at crankshaft speed have one plunger to meter and distribute fuel to all the cylinders and a PSB is lubricated with engine oil and diesel fuel. It is timed to the start of injection. Your Roosa has an advance mechanism and is timed to the end of injection, is only lubricated by diesel fuel and uses 2 plungers to develop the high pressure necessary. Just a couple of differences. I could ask you half a dozen questions on your Roosa Master pump. The first one I am going to ask, is what did they do when they rebuilt the pump? Also how well do you understand a Roosa Pump? More questions call me. J

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Jeff Oliver

06-24-2006 07:03:30




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 Re: Oliver 77 Diesel Restoration Cost? in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-24-2006 04:47:08  
I don't understand injection pumps as I have never been into one. That is why I asked if it would apply as I didn't know what type the older tractors had on them. Looks like a different system so it might be my timing a little off also.



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