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Question for J Schwiebert

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Chris Willy

06-02-2006 10:20:01




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Mr. Schwiebert, I have an 1850 Oliver that I bought with a stuck motor and what we thought was a clutch out. well we have put in a perkins diesel out of a 750 massey combine with a great success and replaced the clutch. We got it all together and it doesn't seem like the hydra power shift is working correctly. We talked to an old oliver mechanic and he thought that it would probably need the hydra power overhauled. So in checking parts prices for that we found it was cheaper to get a used hydra power from a salvage yard near me. What I am wondering is if you can put a 3 speed power shift into this tractor instead of the 2 speed. And if you can what 3 speed out of? will one out of a 2-105 white work for instance? Any info would greatly help me out. Thanks alot.

Chris

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J Schwiebert

06-02-2006 12:34:51




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 Re: Question for J Schwiebert in reply to Chris Willy, 06-02-2006 10:20:01  
First question, what is the problem with the hydrapower. Now, Next question Were you just going to change it to a 3 speed. For one thing the heat exchangers etc for the auliary boxes also need to be changed, If you still have an oil to water exchanger you need to have to have the correct oil to air exchanger. What version of the combine engine did you use?



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Chris Willy

06-02-2006 13:27:42




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 Re: Question for J Schwiebert in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-02-2006 12:34:51  
J -- We ended up just going with the 2 spd. unit. and the hydra power acts like it doesn"t engage either into direct or over....its like it just kinda works in either one or the other, there is no distinct shift from one to the other. we were told that the clutch inside may be bad,, or some oil rings?? not exactly sure. But it was supposedly going to cost 1500 in parts and i can get the whole different hydra power for 500. Thanks for your info.

Chris

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Don-Wi

06-02-2006 16:26:03




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 Re: Question for J Schwiebert in reply to Chris Willy, 06-02-2006 13:27:42  
I had the hydra-power rebuilt in my 1600 before I put it back in, only ran me about $650 for the dealer to go through it for me. As far as I know, they are pretty much the same, maybe a few updates but same internals.
Donovan from Wisconsin



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J Schwiebert

06-02-2006 16:18:29




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 Re: Question for J Schwiebert in reply to Chris Willy, 06-02-2006 13:27:42  
You don't make sense to me. You said: "the hydra power acts like it doesn"t engage either into direct or over" First of all, a hydrapower has no over drive. Second: Have you checked the clutch circuit pressure.? Lube pressure? If I was going to get another Hydra-power or Over under I would go through it before I put it in the tractor. The boy has the other shade of Green. It cost over two big ones to go their shift on the go and it was working also. Questions?

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Chris Willy

06-02-2006 20:46:30




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 Re: Question for J Schwiebert in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-02-2006 16:18:29  
I guess I'm not that familiar with the Oliver hydra power unit. All i know is that when your driving it down flat level ground you can pull the hydra power knob out and leave it for 30 seconds while drving then push it in and you dont notice any change. Also how do you check the line pressure? or what else should I check and how to check it. Also the dealer tells us that you need some special tools to rebuild this unit? Is this something that I can do with no special tools. Thanks alot.

Chris

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J Schwiebert

06-03-2006 06:01:16




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 Re: Question for J Schwiebert in reply to Chris Willy, 06-02-2006 20:46:30  
I sent you an e-mail. Let me know if you get it or not by tomorrow by 9:00 A. M. Eastern Daylight time. J.



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