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S88D Alternator

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Josh V.L.

05-30-2006 12:03:14




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I would like to replace the existing nonfunctional generator on my 1956 Super 88 Diesel with an alternator. Any suggestions on make or model of alternator? Any wiring tips?




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Bob

05-30-2006 12:18:15




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 Re: S88D Alternator in reply to Josh V.L., 05-30-2006 12:03:14  
Use a Delco alternator, 10SI, from mid-70's to mid 80's GM car or light truck, and make up a little wiring harness, like the one shown here. ("7127" is a rebuilder's industry standard # for those units.)

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You can use an "idiot light" with a # 194 lamp in place of the diode, but the diode is CHEAP, and should be easy to find at an industrial electronics supplier, and only requires a covering of heat shrink tubing.

Either connect the lead from the diode to the switched side of the key switch (if used), or get an oil pressure switch that turns on at about 4 PSI, and use that to switch the power to the diode lead "on" or "off", so the alternator "switched excite" lead is powered only while the engine is running (and has oil pressure).

Setting your new charging system up this way is CHEAP, and BETTER than using a "one-wire" aftermarket alternator.

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Bill Johnson

05-30-2006 15:23:09




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 Re: S88D Alternator in reply to Bob, 05-30-2006 12:18:15  
Bob,

I'm wondering why you don't like the one-wire alternator. Our 88 gas has had one on it since 1969 and it's worked great. I bought a one-wire alternator and installed it on our 1969 Fairmont A6 railroad gang car about 10 years ago and we've had no problems with it either. We buy them at NAPA.



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Bob

05-30-2006 17:59:29




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 Re: S88D Alternator in reply to Bill Johnson, 05-30-2006 15:23:09  
Generally speaking, the goofy aftermarket "one-wire" units cost MORE than a standard OEM-type "3-wire" alternator.

One-wires tend to have to have the engine speed "revved up" a bit before they will BEGIN to charge.

One-wires tend to drain the battery more during times of non-use than a standard OEM-type "3-wire" alternator.

All it takes to hook up an "off-the-shelf" 3- wire alternator is the simple, cheap diode, and you can get good used 3-wire alternators for as low as $5.00 to $10.00 at automotive recylcing yards.

So, what do you feel is the big advantage of the "one-wire" units, when connecting up a 3-wire unit is SO simple and low cost?

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old

05-30-2006 15:31:53




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 Re: S88D Alternator in reply to Bill Johnson, 05-30-2006 15:23:09  
Bill the one wire type are ok but they have been known to cause problems also and loose the excite and then they don't work. Also most one wires need to be rev up a lot to get them to start chargeing and useing the 3 wire type they charge as soon as the engine it running no matter how many RPM the engine is running, plut the 3 wire costs about 1/2 that of a one wire

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Josh V.L.

05-30-2006 12:36:53




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 Re: S88D Alternator in reply to Bob, 05-30-2006 12:18:15  
Bob, thank you for your quick reply, picture, and advice. Having never bought an alternator, does the two wire plug come with the alternator, or will I be able to purchase that at the auto parts store too?



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J Schwiebert

05-30-2006 19:01:32




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 Re: S88D Alternator in reply to Josh V.L., 05-30-2006 12:36:53  
do make sure you get that oil pressure switch or you will have dead batteries.



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Bob

05-30-2006 12:57:06




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 Re: S88D Alternator in reply to Josh V.L., 05-30-2006 12:36:53  
The plug DOESN'T come with the alternator. I buy the connector bodies, and make up my own. Auto parts places have a replacement plug with a short harness you can buy, and then alter it, as I have shown.



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