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Rubber Tracked HG-R

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Tramway Guy

05-08-2006 11:07:17




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The price really went up right at the end. Seems like it might even have been worth more, if a M-M UDLX routinely fetches $100,000 nowadays. Note that one of the bidders had "zero" feedback rating.




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Carlton Grambo

05-09-2006 11:49:00




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Tramway Guy, 05-08-2006 11:07:17  
A long time ago(1971)a farmer near Clayton,WI. had a HG like that to pulled the skids. We were building a Harvestore unit on his farm. Worked good in the early spring mud. He said it was about a 1954. But he did not know for sure.



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Tramway Guy

05-09-2006 05:14:14




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Tramway Guy, 05-08-2006 11:07:17  
How do you get that impression? I suspect that the second bidder had a maximum bid of 33800, then the final bidder put in bid well over that. Defaults to the just enough to cover the second bidder"s maximum. Or am I totally wrong?



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RAB

05-09-2006 09:00:22




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Tramway Guy, 05-09-2006 05:14:14  
Yep, totally wrong, I would think. The only way that bid would have gone on is if the reserve was set at that level, which I think was not the case.
Look for yourself at the bidding. The under-bidder max bid was 11.2K
RAB



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Tramway Guy

05-09-2006 09:19:16




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to RAB, 05-09-2006 09:00:22  
I have looked, and I conclude that the bidder who had $11,200 had placed a higher maximum bid (let's say 32,800) and the highest bidder put in a maximum greater than that (let's say $50,000). Since he only needed to go to 32,900, that is the final amount shown. To quote e-bay: "Only actual bids (not automatic bids generated up to a bidder's maximum) are shown."
I have seen this before, the bid jumps a lot, with no intermediate bids shown..

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RAB

05-09-2006 14:15:08




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Tramway Guy, 05-09-2006 09:19:16  
If that was the case, the highest bid for the underbidder would have shown as 32800, not 11200.
I thought the reserve was not that high and it had been exceeded previously, but perhaps I was wrong. That is the only way the bid can jump like that, as far as I know.
I will ask the guy. He may not respond, but I will ask.
Regards, RAB



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RAB

05-09-2006 14:03:22




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Tramway Guy, 05-09-2006 09:19:16  
If that was the case, the highest bid for the underbidder would have shown as 32800, not 11200.
I thought the reserve was not that high and it had been exceeded previously, but perhaps I was wrong. That is the only way the bid can jump like that, as far as I know.
I will ask the guy. He may not respond, but I will ask.
Regards, RAB



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Tramway guy

05-09-2006 14:44:41




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to RAB, 05-09-2006 14:03:22  
You are right in that it should have shown the 32,800 bid...but maybe there were simultaneous bids or something.



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RAB

05-09-2006 23:28:00




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Tramway guy, 05-09-2006 14:44:41  
No response yet from the seller, the buyer, or the underbidder.
RAB



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Tramway Guy

05-15-2006 06:11:57




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to RAB, 05-09-2006 23:28:00  
I have found something in E-bay's procedures that might explain this...
"In Reserve Price Auctions, if your maximum bid is the first to be greater than the seller's reserve price, the eBay system will automatically jump the price up to meet the reserve, and bidding will continue from there."
This just happened to me on another item, I couldn't understand why it didn't increment up as usual, expecially since when I retracted the bid and re-entered another (lower) one, it went up incrementally. Now it says that I am high bidder, but the reserve is not met. So the reserve on the HG-R must have been a lot higher than you expected.

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Super 55

05-08-2006 20:44:38




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Tramway Guy, 05-08-2006 11:07:17  
That is a really neat machine. More money than I have.



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RAB

05-08-2006 23:12:19




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 Re: Rubber Tracked HG-R in reply to Super 55, 05-08-2006 20:44:38  
It was eleven and a halk K, not as posted at 33K!
The underbidder was only 11.2K.
Regards, RAB



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