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Perkins 354(1850 Ollie)

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Jak

04-12-2006 10:28:45




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The 1850 revs up nicely and idles good but at higher rpm's(high idle)it misses.Under a load it sounds fine and it has a freshly rebuilt injector pump on it too.I suggested taking out the injectors and have them pressure checked.Number two and three injectors look different than the rest and that was a little fishy???Was there different types of injectors that fit the same application?It smelled awful rich and the fumes would burn your eyes under a roof.Thanks.

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J. Schwiebert

04-13-2006 13:29:36




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 Re: Perkins 354(1850 Ollie) in reply to Jak, 04-12-2006 10:28:45  
If you looked at the cap nuts on the injectors there is a difference between the early and the late tractors. They interchange just fine. When you had the pump off did you check the timing of the pump drive? We had one that way once. Since you can pull that pump in a few minutes I would pull the pump and check the timing on the pump drive. Late engines had a heavier duty pump drive. Did your pump have a short (say 2 inch in length) splined shaft about 7/8 to 1 inch in diameter? I have that shaft twist a slight amount also which will also make it do what you are talking about. Questions?

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Jak

04-13-2006 14:11:08




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 Re: Perkins 354(1850 Ollie) in reply to J. Schwiebert, 04-13-2006 13:29:36  
Hey John the owner pulled the pump and had it rebuilt at a place in Jackson TN that rebuilds pumps.I personally didn't see it off but may.I went over there and stopped some diesel fuel leaks and done some repair work in other areas.I will print off your info and show it to him and ask.I want to help him get it running but am a little green in this area.Thanks John.



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Jeff Oliver

04-13-2006 18:48:13




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 Re: Perkins 354(1850 Ollie) in reply to Jak, 04-13-2006 14:11:08  
" am a little green in this area" hehe considering the tractors we're talking about thats a good one. :) Now don't be getting him too much power, I'm gonna have my 1800 up there too ya know ...LOL!!!



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Myron KY

04-13-2006 10:50:17




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 Re: Perkins 354(1850 Ollie) in reply to Jak, 04-12-2006 10:28:45  
JAK,
This is a link to an archived post about the cause and cure of the no load, high idle, flutter/miss on the 354.
High Idle Flutter

Mine has this flutter also and smokes like a freight train when cold. Neighbors think the barn's on fire. ":^) Hope this helps.
Myron KY



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newter haven

04-13-2006 20:23:15




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 Re: Perkins 354(1850 Ollie) in reply to Myron KY, 04-13-2006 10:50:17  
what happened to Brad? Sorry, just curious?



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Myron KY

04-14-2006 05:50:51




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 Re: Perkins 354(1850 Ollie) in reply to newter haven, 04-13-2006 20:23:15  
I can't say for sure but I think that was Brad Maibach of Maibach tractor.
Very knowledgeable fellow,,, who ever he is.



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Jeff Oliver

04-13-2006 10:19:05




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 Re: Perkins 354(1850 Ollie) in reply to Jak, 04-12-2006 10:28:45  
Hey jak ya might check the timing and see if it is off just a little. My 1800 was like that and after they reset the timing it was better. Not sure about the injectors as far as if there were different ones. Perkins is a different animal than the Waukashua I have. Call Tommy Cannon over in Fulton. He just rebuilt his last year or the year before, should be able to help you some.



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