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Oliver plow to 1650

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wmthrower

04-10-2006 05:10:25




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I picked up an Oliver 3pt 3 bottom plow this weekend. It won"t mount on my 1650. The balls that go into the end of the lift arms partially cover up the holes on the plow pins. Are there different balls to fit the lift arms or am I going to have to grind down the shoulder on the balls so that they will work? Also, where do I find out the model number on the plow?




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Myron KY

04-10-2006 13:38:34




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to wmthrower, 04-10-2006 05:10:25  
I had the same problem with a Deere Cat-1 plow. The Cat-2 balls are too wide covering most of the lynch pin hole.
I purchased Oliver Cat-1 balls from my local AGCO dealer. The Cat-1 balls are narrower and worked fine.
They are spendy though.

Hope this helps.
Myron KY



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Boco

04-10-2006 08:21:13




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to wmthrower, 04-10-2006 05:10:25  
Something I ran into, you have to take atleast one block of steel off of arm then grind notch in balls to get pins in place. I still don't know what # of plow I have either, it has the moldboards mounted with curved frog. John I have a 450 that I was describing to you a few months back, in proscess of rebuilding, new shines, moldboards, and points. Lucky I guess rolling cutters are almost 20 in. Boco

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J. Schwiebert

04-10-2006 06:49:20




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to wmthrower, 04-10-2006 05:10:25  
This may sound stupid, but is the hitch on your plow a Cat. 1 Or is it a Cat 2? Your plow may have a decal with the serial number on it and it may not. The first number will be a 3 as all Oliver mounted plows start with a 3. How about a better description of how the the mast for the top link is constructed and is the beam attaching all 3 beams a solid bar or is it a box beam? Start there. A picture would be better yet.

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wmthrower

04-10-2006 07:16:59




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 04-10-2006 06:49:20  
Here is a pic of a very similar plow. I will take pics as soon as I can. The mount on my plow appears to a Cat. 1. The beam for the lift arm mounts is a solid bar. I believe the mast for the top link is solid as well. The top link attaches to a cast mount that is bolted to the mast. I can change that if necessary or I can grind down the cast a little as there are "bubbles" around the pin holes on the inside of the mount. That is the easy part, the lift arms is what is causing the most trouble.

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/wmthrower/oliver_plow.jpg[/IMG]

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J. Schwiebert

04-10-2006 13:07:44




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to wmthrower, 04-10-2006 07:16:59  
Scratch that idea: The image is no longer there. Did you set your lift arm for Cat1? Measure the diameter of the pins on the hitch. I have an idea you have either a 3240, 3241 or 3242 plow and not a 360 series.



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wmthrower

04-11-2006 04:32:32




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 04-10-2006 13:07:44  
Well I talked to Maibach's yesterday and they are sending me the correct ball sockets. Apparently I have the Cat. 2 ones with my lift arms. The Cat. 1 ball sockets don't have the shoulder and have the correct I.D. for the plow mounts. I ground down the mount on the plow for the top link a little and it just about fits so I think that I will be set now. How do I tell what model plow I have? Are there any stampings on the plow? The decals are long gone on this plow. I'll try to get a pic when I get a chance.
Thanks for everyones help.

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Don-Wi

04-10-2006 21:18:45




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 04-10-2006 13:07:44  
Hey J!! I was wondering... For Cat I balls, do they just not have the shoulders on them? I plan to make a few on the CNC turning machines at school, both Cat I and II. We had one pair we got form our dealer that are way too soft and they got mashed really bad. I have a couple others I've found since then and they are holding up much better, so I'll see how hard they are and make the new ones to match. I'm just curiouse the difference between Cat I and II balls, if its just the bore or the shoulders as well.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Myron KY

04-10-2006 18:18:46




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 04-10-2006 13:07:44  
Here is the plow picture. I hope.

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J. Schwiebert

04-10-2006 18:32:32




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to Myron KY, 04-10-2006 18:18:46  
Myron: Thank you very much for the picture> It is one of the 324* plows and probably not the 3242. If we sold one of them a year we were doing good. This was not small utility tractors matched to a plow country. J.



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SherryS

04-10-2006 18:48:12




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 Re: Oliver plow to 1650 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 04-10-2006 18:32:32  
That picture is a 3241. I just finished painting one just like it tonight.



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