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Oliver 1655 (oil)

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ryan from WI

04-08-2006 20:31:47




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I am going to change oil in the 1655 gas. Now here are some questions I have. There is some water in the oil pretty bad. Is 10w 30 fine to use? I think am going to get some 5 min motor flush. Do you think I should drop the pan because I got a feeling with water and dirt there will be some chuncks of crap in it.I just what to give it a change because it needs it. I think that is what I am going to do. Just whated to know what you guys think.

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Sam M

04-10-2006 11:42:19




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 Re: Oliver 1655 (oil) in reply to ryan from WI , 04-08-2006 20:31:47  
If you have water and antifreeze , you have a problem that needs to be fixed . If you continue to run engine with water in oil , you are playing with fire . I had a friend with a 1650 diesel where o rings on cylinders were allowing water and antifreeze into the oil. Water caused viscosity and lubrication effect of oil to break down . When he put tractor under a load pulling a plow , engine failed requiring him to do a complete repower of engine with new sleeves , bearings , pistons etc .

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Keith-OR

04-10-2006 08:58:12




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 Misconcepts of Multi-weight oil in reply to ryan from WI , 04-08-2006 20:31:47  
There seems to be a misunderstanding of multigrade oils


The viscosity of multi-weight motor oil is specified using two numbers. The first number is the viscosity when the oil is cold. This is followed by the letter W (which stands for winter, not weight), which is followed by the number that indicates the viscosity when the oil is at operating temperature. The higher the number the thicker the oil.

"SAE 30 is SAE 30 no matter what the "W" prefix number is: 0W, 5W or 10W. This viscosity in centistokes (cSt) @ 100 degrees C is with the minimum of 9.3 cSt and a maximum of 12.5 cSt.

"SAE 40 is SAE 40 no matter what the "W" prefix number is: 5W, 10W, 15W or 20W. The viscosity @ 100 degrees C is within the minim of 12.5 cSt and a maximum of 16.3 cSt.

"SAE 50 is SAE 50 no matter what the "W" prefix number is: 5W, 10W, 15W or 25W. The viscosity @ 100 degrees C is within the minimum of 16.3 cSt and a maximum of 21.9 cSt.

Low-viscosity oils flow better than high-viscosity ones—the lighter-weight fluid is easier to pump and therefore circulates faster through the engine's various galleries. Low-viscosity oils also maintain a lower oil pressure, but the oil pump delivers a greater volume through the galleries than it would with thicker (higher-viscosity) oils. Heavier oils also tend to operate at higher temperatures because the oil pump has to work harder to force the lubricant through the system. Oil does not compress readily, so the added pressure increases the temperature. In the end, high-viscosity oils maintain a higher oil pressure, but the pump delivers a smaller volume of oil. HTH

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newter haven

04-09-2006 18:53:56




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 Re: Oliver 1655 (oil) in reply to ryan from WI , 04-08-2006 20:31:47  
we have used 15/40 for twenty years in everything a very good all around motor oil. No problems. Good luck with the water situation, that doesn't sound good as old stated, start maybe with the pan off and a preassure check.



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klf

04-08-2006 21:42:13




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 Re: Oliver 1655 (oil) in reply to ryan from WI , 04-08-2006 20:31:47  
I would use 15W-40 also. I don't see any reason why 10W-30 wouldn't work either, but we use 15W-40 oil in about everything. The 20W-50 is kind of heavy, and I usually only recommend that for racing engines.



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Don-Wi

04-08-2006 21:27:47




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 Re: Oliver 1655 (oil) in reply to ryan from WI , 04-08-2006 20:31:47  
If you don't work it hard, 10-30 is fine for a gas, but we keep it simple. We buy drums of 15w-40 from the Massey dealer and run it in everything, gas or deisel, including my 88 F150. We've got the 1855 deisel and 1600 gas, and also our Massey 165 gasser and the 285. Donovan from Wisconsin



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old

04-08-2006 21:22:07




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 Re: Oliver 1655 (oil) in reply to ryan from WI , 04-08-2006 20:31:47  
Is it just plain water or did it also have antifreeze in it?? Was it parked out side or inside?? If it was just water it maybe condensation but if it has antifreeze in it you may have bigger problems. If I where going to use a muti weight oil I would use a 20W-50, but I never use muti wieght oils.

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