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Starting problems Super 88 Gas

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Jak

02-06-2006 13:12:20




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My 88 will spin and spin and won't crank until I let off the button then it hits and starts.I put in an electronic pick up and new Flamthrower coil.Will the spark plug wires(copper core)that I have on there effect it?DO they need to be a better wire,these look to be good but I didn't know if they can handle more voltage?New 650 cca battery and good wireing from the battery to the switch and to the coil.I have voltage to the coil when cranking it over and when pulling a plug it will spark the plug.I gapped the plugs back down from .045 to .030 and it seemed to help.Any help appreciated.Jack

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Choreboy

02-07-2006 19:12:20




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to Jak, 02-06-2006 13:12:20  
dose it have a alternater or generater? is system wired right?



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Jak

02-08-2006 06:26:42




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to Choreboy, 02-07-2006 19:12:20  
It has an alternator on it and was working flawlessly last year.



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RAB

02-06-2006 15:38:58




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to Jak, 02-06-2006 13:12:20  
If it is fitted with a ballast resistor, where is it wired in?
RAB



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Jak

02-07-2006 07:47:50




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to RAB, 02-06-2006 15:38:58  
Hey RAB I didn't see any ballast resister between the battery all the way to the coil.The coil was supposed to have a resistor built in.



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RAB

02-07-2006 08:24:52




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to Jak, 02-07-2006 07:47:50  
So, if it is not a ballast resistor wired into the "starting" coil supply, try removing a plug cover and watching for a spark to/through the plug with the plug in situ and cranking on the starter. If no spark, you need to see if it is ignition pick-up, or low energy for spark.
Voltage to the coil may appear OK but could still have low current due to a high resistance somewhere.
RAB



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Jak

02-07-2006 09:04:53




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to RAB, 02-07-2006 08:24:52  
Hey RAB it is a new Pertronix probably with a half a dozen runs on it.Not saying it can't be bad but it is new.My starter doesen't act right sometimes,you think it may need rebuilding?It will just grind sometimes and others it spins it over decent.It seems to have gradually gotten harder to fire up than when I first installed the electronic ignition.Thanks.



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old

02-06-2006 13:28:43




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to Jak, 02-06-2006 13:12:20  
Sounds like you have a wiring problem or a starter that pulls to many volts to let it have good fire when its cranking. If its a wireing problem you have it wired so it has no voltage when the starter is turning the engine over. If its a weak starter you need to have it checked and or rebuilt.



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Jak

02-07-2006 09:06:44




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to old, 02-06-2006 13:28:43  
Thanks Old,I am gonna look into having a rebuild,it wouldn't hurt even if that wasn't the problem I suppose.Jack



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Jak

02-07-2006 10:32:24




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to Jak, 02-07-2006 09:06:44  
The positive cable starts at the battery then to the starter button then to the starter(big wire).Then a 12 guage wire comes off the starter button block on the under side of the button assembly to the ammeter through that to the start switch(key off on)then out to the coil.I have fire at the coil and through it while I am spinning the starter,how much I don't know but it lights up my test light.With the plugs out it will fire them but haven't checked with them in.Jak

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old

02-07-2006 09:42:32




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 Re: Starting problems Super 88 Gas in reply to Jak, 02-07-2006 09:06:44  
I still thnik your problem is the way you have it wired since you say it starts when you let off of the starter. But not knowing how its wired that just an educated guess



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