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Fred Whittaker

01-31-2006 19:30:04




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Hello. I have a 6-354 perkins with a turbo that came from a massey 750 combine. My problem is that the head is cracked. Would the head from a non-turboed 6-354 perkins be the same? I have a good head from an oliver 1850 that i could use if it is the same. Also would the head that was used on the white 2-105 be the same as the massey? I didn't know weather or not the 2-105 used the newer dot 4 motors.

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mlshvb

02-18-2006 18:01:17




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 Re: Perkins head in reply to Fred Whittaker, 01-31-2006 19:30:04  
Hello, I have a similar problem with a worn out head on my 1850. Would you be interested in selling the oliver head that you have? What kind of condition is it in and what price?

thanks,

Mike



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J. Schwiebert

02-01-2006 03:30:17




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 Re: Perkins head in reply to Fred Whittaker, 01-31-2006 19:30:04  
The answer to the first question is no. There are at least 4 different 354 heads plus at least 4 different head gaskets. The answer to the 105 with a dot 4 above a certain serial number yes. How well do you know your Perkins 354 engines? Also is your head cracked or do your injector tubes leak if you have a coolant problem? Questions



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Fred Whittaker

02-01-2006 05:43:48




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 Re: Perkins head in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-01-2006 03:30:17  
I don't have a coolant problem. The engine started throwing a lot of oil out the exhaust. We tore the engine down, and found that the valves did not appear to be seating correctly. The valve guides also had a lot of slop in them. We took the head to a machine shop to have valve work done and checked for cracks. They informed me that it has 9 cracks near the injector ports. Two more more questions for you. Do you know of a good place to a reconditioned head? Secondly, Will the serial number on the block(near the injector pump) be what i need to find the correct head?

Thanks again

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J. Schwiebert

02-02-2006 03:46:16




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 Re: Perkins head in reply to Fred Whittaker, 02-01-2006 05:43:48  
Did not leak did it. First of all I used to have a Perkins bulletin on which cracks in those heads caused no problems and the heads were acceptable to use. I need a casting number off the head and an engine number. Remember Perkins has used 3 different systems for serial numbers for those engines. Engine number is by the injection pump. If a late engine there will be 2 numbers, a serial number and a built number, need both. I also have to teach an adult class on Saturday so I might not get to check this all out till next week but get me that information.

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Fred Whittaker

02-06-2006 09:22:30




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 Re: Perkins head in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-02-2006 03:46:16  
The number off of the engine is: 354UA20739TL

The number off of the head is: 37116690-6

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Fred Whittaker

02-02-2006 05:23:09




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 Re: Perkins head in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-02-2006 03:46:16  
I will get that information this weekend. The guy at the shop said that a lot of people do run those engines with those types of crack, but he said that he does not recommend it.

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