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Kruse

09-11-2005 19:36:41




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What exactly did Oliver (or any other manufacturer, for that matter) use the Perkins 354D diesel motor in? The reason I ask is that in another web site I"ve been browsing, a few of the members claim that the 354D engine was a factory option in Ford pickups down in Australia. According to them, it has the exact bolt pattern as the 300 Ford gas engine and they are almost interchangeable. Also, besides getting it through AGCO, how easy are parts to get?
While I have no interest in doing this swap, it would be nice to grap a tape measure and see if it has the same bolt pattern as the 300/6 cyl Ford.
Anybody got the 354D applications on the top of their head?

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AV

09-12-2005 19:14:39




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Kruse, 09-11-2005 19:36:41  
Several Massey's had the Perkins 354. 1130/1135-2675/2705



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4010 puller

09-12-2005 18:56:38




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Kruse, 09-11-2005 19:36:41  
Did a 354 perkins always have a vertically mounted rotary injection pump or did some have horizontally mounted pumps. It would be great to see one with a Bosch A or P pump mounted horizontally. I read in the Puller magazine once that an ole boy from around Wooster Ohio had a 1850 Oliver puller with a p pump rigged up by chaindrive. Have any of you ever heard of this being done? How does it work.

Thanks,

John

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Marc Smothers

09-12-2005 17:25:26




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Kruse, 09-11-2005 19:36:41  
Oliver used it in the 1850. WHite used it the 2-85, 2-105, 2-88, 2-110. Oliver combine 7800, All the diesel powered White combines. THe 354 does not have a standard SAE bolt pattern on the back of the motor. THe clutch housing used on most 354 diesels has a SAE #2 bolt pattern enabling a bellhousing for the over/under to bolt to this pattern. I have seen this 354 in Ford heavy duty trucks with a SAE #3 bellhousing. I personally think it can compare very easily to the Cummins 6BT. 354 has sleeves, Cummins does not. I will put my 2-105 against my 1955 with 5.9L Cummins anyday. Marc

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Craig A Tull

09-12-2005 14:28:29




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Kruse, 09-11-2005 19:36:41  
My brother inlaw installed several 6-354s in 3/4 ton chevys in the late 70s, all one could see from the firewall to the radiator was valve cover. I thought they were pretty cool, but by todays standards a little lacking in power.
I have been eyeing that 8V-53 Detroit sitting in my engine stand and my 1998 GMC 1 ton/w the thirsty 454, and wandering????? maybe,,,
Craig



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Steve from Mo - dangit!

09-12-2005 06:36:28




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Kruse, 09-11-2005 19:36:41  
I met a guy in Arizona who had a Perkins in a 78-79 Ford F-250. I didn"t ask which Perkins, but he said it came from a wrecked UPS truck, and that he had to cut the firewall to get it in the Ford.



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mud

09-12-2005 05:57:43




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Kruse, 09-11-2005 19:36:41  
About a year ago I posted an auction I found on Ebay here in this forum. It was for a generator that was driven by a 354. It belonged to a gravel pit as a backup power source. Went for $900 as I recall. I have not seen them in compressors, however, I believe that they were commonly used in generators.



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Don-Wi

09-11-2005 19:48:18




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Kruse, 09-11-2005 19:36:41  
The 354 was used in the Ollie 1850, as well as the White 2-85, and 2-105. it was also used in some Massey combines, and probably some other applications. The Perkins uses a standard SAE bolt pattern, so it is possible. You do use a Perkins belhousing for a Cummins conversion.

There are several different versions of the 354, meaning not all parts interchange from a perkins in a 2-85 and an 1850

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Boco

09-12-2005 07:07:46




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-11-2005 19:48:18  
God morming to all, here is a site.
www.dieselhelp.com it's name is Wickliff Diesel Service Inc. in Bowling Green Ky. They are at the farm show in Loisvilly Ky in Feb. The 354 is in some MF tractors I believe from the 1100-series and later models.

Boco



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edchainsaw

09-13-2005 20:30:37




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 Re: Perkins 354D applications....... in reply to Boco, 09-12-2005 07:07:46  
Massey used the 354 in:

1100,1105,1130,1135,2675,2705 3 of the 3500 series, 3 of the 3600's ( exept the 3660 where it was replaced with the new version - 362engine)

combines.. 510's, 550,750,760,850


what you can say is it was Massey's jack of all trades engine...



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