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Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!!

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Mark (PA)

07-01-2005 13:17:08




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Hello folks

I am new to your forum here as I spend my time on the Red (IH) side of the street. I recently moved to a small 15 acre farm to do some hobby farming. Grew up on a farm... anyway on to the chase.

I need to find a tractor to help me with the following jobs, probably not this year, but next for sure.

First and foremost haying equipment. I am looking for a tractor to run a baler, possibly with a kicker, and pull a good wagon, handle the mowing up front etc. I have a farmall Super A for raking with.

So I figured i"d start with a tractor. I will admit that I normally look toward the red ones and have spent most of my time doing so but today a friend asked if I was interested in an Oliver super 77 so I said sure.

I would really appreciate an opinion on if you guys think it would work out for me to buy this tractor for the reasons above as well as going forward for plowing/planting in years to come.

tractor info.
I don"t have a serial # but the tractor was rebuilt about 5 years ago by a gentleman who used it for pulling. he rebuilt it with larger pistons supposedly getting around 70-75 HP out of it. i have know way of verifying that readily.

When I went to see it it appears to be in good shape. tin is there and paint is not bad at all. It does not have a 3pt hitch (don"t see that i"d need one at the moment anyway) and no Power steering ( I don"t know if that was an option even or not). It does have 2 remotes both appear to work. was able to test one side with a brush cutter. Finally its a Narrow front..> I wish it was a wide front because there are some slopes on the property but I could probably deal with it or possibly find a wide front.

I started it and it immediatly started. I was surprised as I didn"t think it would start near as easily as it did.

the Tranny pattern was odd to me as I"m not used to it but i caught on and it ran good in gears 1, 2, 3, and R1. didn"t get to try the others.

Overall i"d say its in good to very good shape. he is asking $2000. is this in line for this model, year?

can anyone tell me things to check out closer that might have a problem?

I appreciate your suggestions!

I probably will be asking about matching a good MoCo and Hay baler with it too if I end up getting it.

thanks.

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Don34

07-04-2005 06:58:59




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mark (PA), 07-01-2005 13:17:08  
I have had a s77 over 20 yrs. I use it for everthing from running a 9 ft haybine to feeding 1200 pound rd bales. 8200 hrs . I change oil at 100 hrs and never add between changes. Since I owned I added tires, new rad core, chamnged to 12 volt, added a 3 point with dual 3 1/2 cylinders so will lift front off ground on a heavy load at idle. Added a Belarus bracket for suitcase weights up front so can hang on up to 8 weights if needed. Go over 1000 pound bale and you need to start adding weight. Also added hyd connectors you can hook up under pressure as these tractors will not let off pressure like most. I have a number of other rigs, 4x4, cab tractors etc here on my dairy farm but I put most hours on the Super 77 as starts well in cold weather. Needed a clutch for past 10 yrs so about time for that. Bummer---have to remove 3 pt to pull pto shaft to do clutch. That"s aftermarket

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havvey

07-02-2005 19:30:19




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mark (PA), 07-01-2005 13:17:08  
i grew up on olivers, the 77 as one of the most popular, the engines are great and don't run out of power the six speed box takes a little getting used to but has quite a few advantages the narrow frount is awsome for row crops and haying (dont' need power sterring) the only twonegatives i would check the live pto clutch and the shaft its week point. also i don.t like the supped up engine for farming $2000 is not unreasonable for it. if you want a better oliver go with a 770. end result i would put the 77 agaisnt any thing in its class and would be confident in it.

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Bryce

07-02-2005 05:09:23




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mark (PA), 07-01-2005 13:17:08  
I love my olivers and I"ll probably take a good verbal beating for this but for hay I really like my 400 farmall (the only farmall I own).It uses about 1/3 less fuel than the 88 I have.But if you want an oliver it sure sounds like you found a nice one.



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oliver dave

07-01-2005 20:40:11




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mark (PA), 07-01-2005 13:17:08  
I'm not shure if your other tractor you have has 3 point lift .But if you roll bales you could have problem moving them.I know a guy that pulls a tree planter with a trike and he has rolled it over a few times on hills.And my brother has a trike and after driving it some I wouldn't want to go on any side hills with it.So if I was in your shoes,the fact that it is a trike would be the biggest holdback for me.

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Mike in MI

07-01-2005 17:17:40




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mark (PA), 07-01-2005 13:17:08  
Mark,

I have a Super 77 and I like it real well. I had this 77 for 16 yrs.now. I had to stick some $$$$ into it when I got it. But it was worth it on the long run. I"ve been using this Super on my dads 45 acre farm. I don"t think the Supers had an option for power steering back then? I can be wrong. W/F ends was an option. Three points - all the ones I"ve seen where after market on them. One thing about the smaller olivers there easy to work on. The Supers have full time live power. The price on the one you looked at dosn"t sound to bad if its had a complete O/H. Hows the tires? This Super Gas or Diesel? I Have more to tell on this subject, I did"nt want to take up to much space.

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Mark (PA)

07-01-2005 18:05:49




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mike in MI , 07-01-2005 17:17:40  
Hi Mike

Thanks for your info.

The front tires are in good shape. The rears are OK. one is good. Its only about 5 years old. The other is so so... weather checked but holds air fine.

Its a gas engine. I don't know exactly how many hours since overhall etc but I would guess not that many at all since the current owner only uses it to brush hog. I would bet only possibly 100 or so in 4 years. just a guess though.

It looks VERY easy to work on which is good for me.

As I mentioned I would sure like to get a 3 point and a wide front but the tractor is literally only a 1/4 mile up the road so I can drive it home. I just wanted to make sure the price was in line.

If you have more to say I'm sure anxious to listen! Shoot me an email even if you like and once again thanks.

I need a good work horse!

Can you suggest some baling equipment I could use it with OK? I have read how some of these haybine push the tractors. not sure if this one is big enough to handle a good one or no.

thanks.

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Mike in MI

07-01-2005 19:12:05




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mark (PA), 07-01-2005 18:05:49  
Mark,

I can"t help you out much on if the 77 would be heavy enough tractor to handle the haybine? I never used one on mine. (Sorry) Dad hasn"t cut hay for years. Mostly done crop farming. You should be able to pick up an after market three point for it. I looked for a long time for a wide front for my 77 the ones that I looked at where either completely worn out or had missing parts from it. I finally gave up looking and decided to build my own W/F with Hydrostic power steering. Its not OEM Oliver wise but its had green paint on it. Took me a while to figure out how I wanted to do this. After doing some fabricating on it an when I got done I was suprized that it worked pretty good. I still have the N/F that came off it yet. I do have some photos of the Super 77. Hopefully someone will give a good answer on baling equipment question you asked. Mike

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Larry NE IL

07-01-2005 19:00:21




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Mark (PA), 07-01-2005 18:05:49  
Your super will have no trouble with a baler..JD T , Oliver 620, etc. and will handle a 9' haybine very well. You are sure to fall in love with the extra 2 cylinders Oliver engines have and the live PTO., not to mention a few extra gears.

good luck, Larry NE IL



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Mark (PA)

07-02-2005 05:34:05




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Larry NE IL, 07-01-2005 19:00:21  
Mike

that sounds really interesting about the wide front... I might try something like that too. I will send an email to you about it possibly maybe get some pictures...

Thanks for all the info guys!!



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Mark (PA)

07-02-2005 05:33:57




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 Re: Super 77 Opinions Needed Please!!! in reply to Larry NE IL, 07-01-2005 19:00:21  
Mike

that sounds really interesting about the wide front... I might try something like that too. I will send an email to you about it possibly maybe get some pictures...

Thanks for all the info guys!!



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