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Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question

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mrunion

06-29-2005 10:27:42




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On my 550 (that I've only had for about a month), the left side brake will slow the tractor and actually lock the wheel. The right side brake seems to not slow the tractor much and will NOT lock the wheel.

OK, brake adjustment I figure. I read on the big service manul (page 7-109) that you losen a lock nut, then turn the adjustment bolt right to tighten, left to loosen brakes. I assume I need to tighten the right side.

The adjustment is as far down (tight) as it goes. I figure, new brakes is what I need. But after coming in the house and thinking about it, I have a question.

With the adjustment bolt all the way tightened, the "rod" that actuates the brake on that side is at it's SHORTEST length. When I press the pedal, the rod moves "up" towards the tractor seat, thus "pushing" the brake. It seems to me that if I "loosen" the bolt, the rod will get longer, thus the pedal will apply the brakes "sooner", thus giving me more pedal, this more braking power?

As a logic comparrison, the left wheel will lock easily and it has about 8 washers sticking out under the tractor. These were put under the head of the adjustment bolt. Thus the left side has a longer travel.

Am I loosing it, or does any of this make sense? I can take pictures and post them if need be.

Thanks for bearing with my long-winded-ness.

Thanx,
Matt

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mrunion

06-30-2005 07:56:25




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to mrunion, 06-29-2005 10:27:42  
Called the nearest dealer I could find today about the parts. Total without tax and shipping was $172 ($35 ea. on pads, $16 ea. on seals, 4 pads + 2 seals).

Not bad, but still not as good as I had hoped. I can get the linings and rivets for the brakes and reline them myself for $18 per pad. I figure that's half the cost of pads, but twice the work. Since I've never relined a pad, I think it'd be best to go with with whole pad, right? Heck, the whole thing might be wore out anyway.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Thanx,
Matt

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J. Schwiebert

06-29-2005 15:06:26




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to mrunion, 06-29-2005 10:27:42  
The brake that locks up I would disassemble and check for an oil leak. I would also clean the brake actuator, install the 3 little springs, lubricate the balls with powere graphite make sure the ramps they move in do not have any rough spots and check the condition of the brake disks. I would also check the amount of wear in the brake actuating arm. It is proably worn.



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mrunion

06-29-2005 18:06:43




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to J. Schwiebert, 06-29-2005 15:06:26  
Oh, and another question: According to the big manual, it mentions nothing about removing the wheel(s) to remove the brake assmebly. Is this an indication that it DOESN'T have to have the wheel(s) removed, or that it's assumed that the wheel(s) ALWAYS have to be removed?

I'd really like for the 550 to keep it's feet on the ground for this. It seems that everything is readily accessible with the wheels on, but I'd hate to tear into it, then find out I need to remove a wheel, etc.

Also, according to the manual, it doesn't seem like it's too big a job for me to tackle in an afternoon. Have I already lulled myself into a false sense of security in that respect?

Thanx,
Matt

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Super 55

06-29-2005 20:20:03




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to mrunion, 06-29-2005 18:06:43  
You shouldn't have to remove the wheels. Once the drum is off the actuator is right there. However, my brake job on my Super 55 turned into more than just an afternoon brake job. I ended up finding a leaking seal, like John suggests you look for. If you find that. Check the pinion shaft for wear, and you might have to put a speedy sleeve on if it has a grove worn on it. That big manual is worth it's weight in gold isn't it? A couple of things.... you must replace the discs on both sides if you find the discs need replacing, and make sure you torque the cover bolts to specs. You can damage the cover if you don't .

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mrunion

06-30-2005 06:12:45




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to Super 55, 06-29-2005 20:20:03  
Yeah, that big manual is awsome!

OK, I have reread the procedure again, and with the pictures it shows and guidance you guys have given, think this is something I can handle pretty well. Unfortunately I know one of the brake cross shaft seals are leaking. Ithink I am going to assume that any seal may be leaking and just go ahead and get those and the brake discs before even taking the things apart. Hopefully nothing else has went south on me.

As far as cost, is it correct to assume that if only seals are leaking and I replace the brake disks I am looking at less than about $200? (A lot of factors come into play here I know.)

Thanx,
Matt

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Super 55

06-30-2005 06:23:07




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to mrunion, 06-30-2005 06:12:45  
I think that is about right on the price. AGCO will have all of the parts. Good luck.



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mrunion

06-30-2005 08:15:02




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to Super 55, 06-30-2005 06:23:07  
My apologies for continually being a pest, but one more question/opinion and I should be able to leave you guys alone.

Would there be any harm in taking things apart and inspecting everything, then putting it back together as is? That way I can "know" for sure whether I need anything in addition to what I have already assumed? Does experience say, "Once it's apart, don't put it back without new stuff?" Or will it be OK to put back what is there and wait for a week or two? I don't want to buy too little (or too much!).

I don't do any plowing/hogging/anything with the tractor right now because I have no attachments. I bought it primarily as a yard mower with the ability to move on up in work ability next year (bushhog, box blade, etc.). The most it should have to do is test out a finish mower in the next week or so. It may pull the kids on the little wagon for a trip around the yard, but that's all. It does stop OK.

Thanx again,
Matt

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Super 55

06-30-2005 21:57:33




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to mrunion, 06-30-2005 08:15:02  
I wouldn't go to all of the trouble myself. Now as John stated, you will need to check the springs, the balls, and the groves in the actuators to make sure noting is rough, and slides well. That can add to your cost.



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mrunion

06-29-2005 17:57:56




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 Re: Oliver 550 Brake Adjustment Question in reply to J. Schwiebert, 06-29-2005 15:06:26  
Cool. I"ll have to find the time to do that in the next little bit. Hopefully nothing is too badly out of place!

On a side note, I thought tractor brakes were supposed to lock up to allow for better turning. Is that not correct?

Thanx,
Matt



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