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$5100 would be plenty

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Jim Meade

06-17-2005 21:23:05




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If the tires are in very good condition (near new, few weatherchecks), and all else checks out that may be an OK price, but that is quite a bit of money around here.
Figure the tractor at $2000-$3000 and the 3-point at up to $1000, that puts the loader at $1000-@2000. It may be a good dea, but in all honesty, I'd look at something a little newer in a utility tractor.
A few things to check for the affect either performance or resale:
Condition of tires and rims
Does PTO engage with about 30-40 lbs of pull?
Does the overriding (sprag) clutch hold on the under side? If not, this can be up to $1000 to fix. If it works only in the high side, you still almost have to pull it back to shift.
Is manifold cracked?
How many hours on the tractor and the engine?
When was the clutch replaced?
Does the hydraulic pump put out 900 lbs pressure? This can cost $500 or more to fix.
Is this an OEM or after-market 3-point? Is the top link there and unbroken? That can be a couple of hundred dollars.
Is it NF or WF? Wide front is worth up to $1000 more.
Is the sheet metal there and is it in good condition?
What condition are the seat rubbers in? They can be $100 to replace.

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Tony in Arizona

06-17-2005 22:35:25




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 Re: $5100 would be plenty in reply to Jim Meade, 06-17-2005 21:23:05  
Jim,
The rear tires are approximately 80% and didnt see any weather cracks but were definately used. Unfortunately we are booming in the construction area and any type of machinery is going for top dollar. Rims looked good and he was going to replace the front tires with OEM 3 rib type.
I will have to check the PTO engagement as he just got the tractor in and has verified everything works but needs to replace hoses and seals.
Are you referring to the intake manifold? Diesel fired right up and did not smoke.
Tractor shifts and runs in all 6 gears with no unusual sounds, slight grinding in the lower gears when cold but he did not want to run the tractor to long until he had a chance to go over everything as the tractor sat for an undetermined amount of time.
3 point hitch was the same color as the tractor and worked fine, he was going to ensure a 6ft gannon and his back hoe attachment would fit, but the top link looked to be ok.
The tractor has a wide front end.
Sheet metal looks to be in good shape but the paint is faded and stickers are peeling.
Seat looks brans new and did not see any issues. I will follow up on the great advice and post a few pics tonight. Will post the results of your questions when he has finished the repairs he had mentioned. I dont mind an older model as long as I can get parts (dont mind getting hands dirty as I ride a harley). Thanks again Jim.
Will follow up on time, hydraulic pressure and clutch replacement.

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Tony in Arizona

06-17-2005 23:02:00




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 Re: $5100 would be plenty in reply to Tony in Arizona, 06-17-2005 22:35:25  
Jim, didnt see any way to post pics on this forum. If you want to see the pics send me an email and I wll sent you what I have. Thanks again. tony



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Harold in Illinois

06-18-2005 21:49:11




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 Re: $5100 would be plenty in reply to Tony in Arizona, 06-17-2005 23:02:00  
Jim's list of Oliver 880 concerns is pretty thorough, but I would like to add one more, power steering.

The power steering pump has a reputation of seizing and when it goes so goes the generator. The pump is mounted on the generator and the generator's rotor twists if the pump seizes.

Small scores often develop in the power steering cylinder walls. When this happen oil bypasses the cylinder and the front wheels will oscillate even if the steering wheel is held constant. To determine if there is a problem, put the tractor in 6th gear and drive on a road. If it holds the road well, there is no problem.

My dad bought a used 880 in 1970 and we have used it ever since. Its reliability is nowhere as good as his 1953 Oliver 77 or my 1985 John Deere 4250. Most problems are with the power booster (the high-low transmission that Jim described) and power steering problems. Since it appears from your comments that this tractor's power booster has been removed (normal for an 880), that problem is solved. We also had a lot of little frustrating problems like ignition system, clutch, drive shaft bearings, bolts falling out of the drawbar, etc. A lot of these problem I classify as too much power and too little weight.

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Tony in Arizona

06-19-2005 08:22:50




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 Re: $5100 would be plenty in reply to Harold in Illinois, 06-18-2005 21:49:11  
Harold,
I will be strong arming the tractor as it has no power sterring (yet). Generator and starter look to be newer models and work fine. The oliver 880 is a 1960 if that matters as far as reliability. I have read models after 1960 had more reliability concerns than older models (not sure if that includes 1960). I have posted pictures in the gallery so let me know what you think. thanks, tony

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j meyer

06-19-2005 09:05:03




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 Re: $5100 would be plenty in reply to Tony in Arizona, 06-19-2005 08:22:50  
an 880 must be quite rare in the southwest part of the US. In Minnesota, they are quite mill of the run, and one can bought for a price around 2,000 to 2,500



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Tony in Arizona

06-19-2005 16:48:32




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 Re: $5100 would be plenty in reply to j meyer, 06-19-2005 09:05:03  
unfortunately the area has a building boom and all heavy machinery is going at a premium. Thanks for the input at least I have something to go bye.



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