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Hey Myron KY ????

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mud

06-01-2005 18:43:59




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Will you please tell me how to go about making them brake shims?




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Jerry from East Iowa

06-01-2005 19:56:33




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to mud, 06-01-2005 18:43:59  
Hi
Why would you go through the bother and time to make brake shims? You can still find them to buy, depending on application,new and used.Or if you know a mechanic that works on these tractors on a regular basis, he'll more than likely have a nail on the wall full to over flowing with shims for all makes.
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:) Jerry
Jerry's Tractor Repair
Holy Cross, Iowa
563-552-1615 or 563-590-1973

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mud

06-01-2005 20:11:19




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to Jerry from East Iowa, 06-01-2005 19:56:33  
Don't know why Jerry.

You got some brake shims for an 1850 on a nail you don't want?

Myron said he made some that worked well. We need some. Thought I'd hear more about it.

Olivers are scarce in my parts. Time is scarcer.

AGCO wants BUCKS for 12 shims and $26 to drop ship them. If I can make or find shims that will work out I'd be happy, but I'd be just as happy to buy them from a mechanic that has 6 or 8 hangin on a nail.

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Myron KY

06-02-2005 05:38:01




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to mud, 06-01-2005 20:11:19  
Hi Mike,

I went to my local AGCO to try and get some used shims. They had given all their old ones away. They did find one old rusty one and I had one. Their price for new ones was $18 a piece. That's why I decided to make my own. I went to the local sheet metal shop and bought $6 worth of scrap pieces, about the same thickness as the original shims. I used the AGCO shim as a template. Drilled the bolt holes and cut out the shim with a hand held jig/saber saw with a metal cutting blade. I made 4 shims that way. (Poor people have poor ways, as the old saying goes.) I'm not saying their as nice as AGCO's but just as functional. As the brake pads wear, they will be removed anyway.

Until I got the shims, I used flat washers between the brake housing and cover ( 1 or 2 washers for each mounting bolt) as temporary shims. That also help figure out how many shims I needed.

HTH
Myron KY

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mud

06-02-2005 12:36:54




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to Myron KY, 06-02-2005 05:38:01  
Neat trick with that shim idea. You can bet I'll try it too. I've cut enough stainless with a Bosch jigsaw to make me confident. Do you think stainless would work? I got a customer that has some scrap left over from kitchen backsplashes.

My 1850 is a long ways off from right. Still have electrical problems. Thinking of using a GM alternator. Did you do that with yours?

Water pump, dampener, rear tires & rims, radiator dipped, switch changed out, fluids. Now brakes. Long way off from paint & detail work. Used 20.4X38 tires so needed to boost the fenders up 4 inches.

I saw some photos of yours a while back. My dash panel is a fright to look at compared to that machine of yours.

Thanks for that shim trick.

mud / Mike

Looking at a Farmhand F-11 loader for it.

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Myron KY

06-02-2005 18:59:25




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to mud, 06-02-2005 12:36:54  
Stainless should be fine for the shims. Especially if you already have some.

How are your brake actuator springs? Mine were so loose they would fall off, when I removed the actuator. I had allot of trouble keeping the brakes adjusted until I replaced those springs.

Sounds like your making good progress on it. I have not had any charging problems yet. Just little stuff, bad grounds for the lights and dirty connections.

Good luck with the shims!!
Myron KY

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J. Schwiebert

06-02-2005 17:54:58




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to mud, 06-02-2005 12:36:54  
MIKE: I just read your post. What are you using now for an alternator/ Also what is your problem with the alternator you have now. They have all used a Delco unless you have a Montorola off of a 5400 sir planter.



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mud

06-02-2005 20:48:40




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to J. Schwiebert, 06-02-2005 17:54:58  
Hello J.Schwiebert, I have the original unit. I think the trouble is in the regulator. If the key is left one while the tractor is running the battery runs down quick. If I turn off the key then it seems to hold a charge. I am using a single large 12 Volt battery. Any of this make any sense to you? Don't to me. LOL!



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Boco

06-02-2005 08:55:08




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to Myron KY, 06-02-2005 05:38:01  
Do you guys have the plates that where machined around outside edge to use the shims to get more brake wear?



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Myron KY

06-02-2005 19:00:44




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 Re: Hey Myron KY ???? in reply to Boco, 06-02-2005 08:55:08  
My brake cover plates have a raised area, kind of like one side of a disk brake rotor, that the brake disk contacts when actuated. The shim (s) fit around this raised area allowing room for adjustment when the disks are new and thick. Without the shims the brakes rub all the time, no matter how you adjust them.

Here is a picture of a shim...

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Myron KY

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