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3-point travel

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Randy-IA

05-12-2005 16:23:33




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Hi ,The 3-point hitch on my 1755 D won't drop to ground level . At first it wouldn't go to within 15" of the ground . It goes all the way up just fine . So I adjusted the draft control to position control , then when that didn't help I adjusted the control rod on the draft control as short as the threads would allow . That let it go down to within about 8" or so from the ground . Then I took it off all together but that didn't do any good . So at least now I can get it low enough to hook my minny-mo sickle up to work on it . What is the real solution ? Maybe the spring inside not tight enough ? Before I adjusted it the control to the right side of the seat didn't start to move it till about half it's travel . I adjusted the draft control rod till it reacted as soon as the lever was moved . That got it to about 8" from the ground . I can't find a solution in the shop manual . I really don't want to remove the top of the final drive right now to get at that preload spring if that is the solution . Any input is appreciated . Thanks ...Randy

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J. Schwiebert

05-13-2005 14:43:47




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to Randy-IA, 05-12-2005 16:23:33  
I just stopped at the farm. My son has a later 4020 and the way the 3 point is set all the way down is about 14 inches from the floor. The 674 IH will go down to about 11 inches. The only 3 point tool the IH ever gets hooked to is a blade. The 4020 is hooked to a ditch bank mower and we are making a stand so it can set level and up a little bit. We throw a 4 X 4 under the one side now, course once you hook it up it is on the tractor for a month so no big deal. I do have a sheet on how to adjust that linkage. I found it by accident when I was looking up the question about the belt pulley for a 55 series. Questions

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J. Schwiebert

05-13-2005 03:19:57




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to Randy-IA, 05-12-2005 16:23:33  
First of all what manual are you using I & T or Oliver. In simple terms, when the lift links are all the way as far as they lower, the upper lift arms the ones that go into the housing should be parallel with the ground. There is a picture of that in the Oliver manual that is why I asked. Taking the top off and checking your preload is not your solution. The next question. What size tires are on your tractor and have you had this problem since you purchased the tractor. Don's statement about they would not go high enough, when properly adjusted, there should be about 1 inch of movement at the outer end of the upper lift arms when the hand control is all the way to the rear. Questions?

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Don-Wi

05-13-2005 15:47:52




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to J. Schwiebert, 05-13-2005 03:19:57  
Our 1755 did lift it high enough to clear the corn, but it just didn't seem to raise quite as high as the original rear end did. Still worked OK for the plow etc., and our 285 seemed to work better for cultivating anyways.

Besides, that year while cultivating the 1st feild I ran over a skunk, but not before it sprayed that tractor. Thing wasn't even there when I came back around on the next lap.:)

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Randy-IA

05-13-2005 20:07:11




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to Don-Wi, 05-13-2005 15:47:52  
Hi Don , Sorry I didn't get an answer to you this morning but I was getting late to work . Yes I have 18.4-34's on it . I think it was in the owners manual that I saw the groundline to 39-1/2" spec . So that's what I thought it should be and that there was something wrong with it . It's still adjusted wrong but it goes low enough to hook the minni-mo on it now and that's what I needed . And the control lever works through it's whole range instead of just the front half like before . But the control rod on the draft control is adjusted to the end of the threads so something must be wrong somewhere . I'm going to keep pondering it . Thanks ....Randy

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Jake in NY

05-15-2005 18:55:21




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to Randy-IA, 05-13-2005 20:07:11  
If you come up with an answer to your problem give a holler. The 3pt on our 1655 won't come anywhere near the ground and while I know what part of the problem is, it used to go lower than it does now. The part of the problem that I know is the previous owner (or one of them) welded the one side so it would go higher. I don't have a torch so I haven't tackled that yet.

Jake



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J. Schwiebert

05-13-2005 17:48:35




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to Don-Wi, 05-13-2005 15:47:52  
People have not cultivated corn here for probably 10 years. There are less uses for a PTO & 3-point than when the tractors were new.



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Don-WI

05-13-2005 22:34:22




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to J. Schwiebert, 05-13-2005 17:48:35  
The only reason we do is to close the cracks in the ground. For weeds the cultivator doesn't cut it, We have it sprayed. I suppose the cultivator would work better if we did it more often, but we do it once then we're done.

We've only had the cultivator for about 5-6 years now, bought it wide and had to narrow it up, leaving about 12-16" extra on each end. One time I wasn't paying attention driving between our shed and milk house (maybe 15' between the 2, but it's the only way to get behind the barn) and I swung the west wall of our milk house out like a door! I fixed it up before my dad got home, thank god it went back together almost as easy. I then continued to cut the extra length of the tool bar w/ the torch.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Randy-IA

05-13-2005 05:08:56




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to J. Schwiebert, 05-13-2005 03:19:57  
Hi J , The tractor runs good now that it costs $3000 more than what I paid for it ! ;") I'm using a Oliver manual ( copy ) I got from the museum . I have 18.4-34 tires on it . Yes the problem has been there since I got it last year , I just had bigger problems with it that I needed to address . Now I want to lift my sickle to work on it ( which at this point isn't critical ) but since I was waiting on parts for all my other junk and didn't have much to do I thought I'd tackle the lift . I adjusted till the control lever started the arms moving as soon as it left the rearmost postion . It still raises as far as it used to . I have about 1" to 1-1/2" of upward travel at the ends of the rocker arms at full lift . That never changed no matter where the draft control rod was adjusted to ( long or short ) like the manual said it should . The owners manual is where I found the spec on the lift arms going from ground line to about 39-1/2" . If 8" is where everyone elses lift goes down to that's OK with me . I'm glad I got it that low , but I still have the draft adjustment way out of whack to get it there . I don't want to leave it like that if there is a better way . Thanks ...Randy

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Don-Wi

05-12-2005 18:34:01




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 Re: 3-point travel in reply to Randy-IA, 05-12-2005 16:23:33  
I don't think you'll ever get it to go any lower than that. Only our 165 massey goes anywhere near the ground, and that's still about 6-7" off. I'm guessing you've got 18.4-34's, because w/ 38's I don't think you'd get near that low. Biggest problem I had w/ our 1755 after it had an 1855 rear end put on, the 3 pt. never went high enough for the cultivator. Started cultivating w/ our 285 massey then.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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