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oldoliverlover

05-08-2005 19:07:01




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How can you tell the difference between a 66 Ind or Std?




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oldoliverlover

05-09-2005 20:52:25




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 Re: Std or Ind in reply to oldoliverlover, 05-08-2005 19:07:01  
Thanks for the info - nothing is simple



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Jim Kline

05-09-2005 05:57:41




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 Re: Std or Ind in reply to oldoliverlover, 05-08-2005 19:07:01  
66 Standards and 66 Industrials are basically the same tractors. Both use the same front frame and neither have mounting pads on the sides like the 77 and 88 Industrials do. The only sure way to tell the difference is by the serial number plate, if it is the original one.



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oliverfan

05-09-2005 07:26:54




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 Re: Std or Ind in reply to Jim Kline, 05-09-2005 05:57:41  


Jim, The parts books on these tractors show that the pads on each side (just above the front axle) are used on the 66 orchard frame only.

However the 66 advertising brochures (A-917, A-917A, and A-917B) all show the pads.

I know I have seen them on real tractors.

Either the parts book is wrong or the brochures are wrong.

Some day we can check Kenny Grimm's 66 (early one) or Dennis Baker's 66 (late one) to see if they have them.

Maybee we will both learn something new.

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oliverfan

05-08-2005 20:33:56




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 Re: Std or Ind in reply to oldoliverlover, 05-08-2005 19:07:01  
On the industrial, the front frame casting will have two pads on each side for mounting different Imps. These pads will look simular to, but are not like the super pads.

The frame on the standard will be smooth, with no holes.

There are other differances (color, etc) but the 66 series does not have a different shift pattern, like the 77's and 88's IND and Ag tractors do.



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RJH

05-09-2005 18:18:17




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 Re: Std or Ind in reply to oliverfan, 05-08-2005 20:33:56  
I have three 66 standards; a 1950 ag gas ser#471191 a 1951 ag diesel ser#473148 a 1954 Ind gas ser#4501655The Ind. has two pads on each side, ag tractors have one on each side at the front, also the shift patern is opposit to the ag tractors, slow gears on the



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Jim Kline

05-09-2005 18:07:28




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 Re: Std or Ind in reply to oliverfan, 05-08-2005 20:33:56  
I apologize, I was wrong. The Standards and Industrials both use the same frame, but they only have ONE pad on each side, toward the front. The Orchard frame is the same, but it has two 5/16" holes on each side for the points to bolt onto.



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