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Oliver 1855 power steering cylinder loose

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sniderman

03-07-2005 08:20:45




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I recently purchased an Oliver 1855 diesel tractor and while using it this Saturday I broke one of the hard hydraulic lines running to the power steering cylinder in the front of the tractor. When removing the line I noticed the the steering cylinder itself was loose and figured that was what caused my problem. I also noticed that the steering cylinder rocks whenever you turn the steering wheel about 1/2 inch up and down. Is this normal? I didn't see anyway of tightening the cylinder down since it only attaches to a torque arm by way of a stud bolted to the cylinder housing. I was thinking of replacing a portion of hardline with a hydraulic hose so there wouldn't be any fatigue from movement but I also want to make sure the cylinder is properly attached and won't fall off going down the road. Any help would be appreciated.

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Chris

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Shep Va

03-07-2005 10:33:19




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 Re: Oliver 1855 power steering cylinder loose in reply to sniderman, 03-07-2005 08:20:45  
Chris,

This is a very common problem you are having.

First of all, by all means have some hydraulic hoses made up that will replace the hard lines to the power steering. You should be able to connect the lines on the top of the fuel tank and I ran them down the side of the fuel tank and along the side of the frame rail, under the radiator and hooked them up. Make sure they are high pressure 3/8 hydraulic lines.

There could be several problems relating to your steering box moving. Yes this is a problem, and it is difficult to solve sometimes. You could have wear in your tork arm and tork arm pin. You can remove the tork arm from the steering motor with a bolt, and the pin hooks to the frame and through the arm hole. Lots of times the hole in the arm gets wallered out and allows movement. The pin also gets worn where it rides in the hole. You can still get new pins from agco and you can weld the hole in the arm shut and re-drill it, or get a new one from agco as well.

You could also have worn bearings on the main shaft below the steering motor. There are two bearings above the pitman arm that have grease fittings, if they are worn they can allow the motor to move.

You also have a shaft that goes through those bearings down to the pitman. That shaft can be worn or there may be a nut on the bottom of that shaft that can get loose and allow movement.

The probem here is that a little bit of wear over multiple parts can equal over an inch of movement at the wheels and the next thing you know you have half a steering wheel of play in the steering going down the road.

I would start with the tork arm and see how bad it looks. You may end up pulling the steering motor and going after bearings or shafts if you have to.

I fought this problem with my 1850, just about could not keep it in the road there for a while. Ended up replacing the entire steering motor and shaft because of a the shaft had worn so much that it cut the bottom of the steering box out and had a serious leak, replaced the bearings, new tork arm and pin, new tie rods and now it steers better than new. It did cost me over $800 to fix it all but the steering motor was $500 of that.

I would suggest to jack the front of the tractor up and shake the front wheels and see where it is moving and go from there.

Good luck

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