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How can I get more pulling power out of my 88

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Dan Williams

02-17-2005 22:33:46




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Hi! I have been around old tractors my whole life on our little beef farm. Recently I have started to go to tractor shows and I pulled a couple of times with our Fordson Super Major. now I am addicted. I scrounged some money (im still in school) up and I bought an oliver 88 specifically to restore and pull, but I still want to be able to use it for fun sometimes on the farm. I was wondering what I could do to make sure it was operating at it full potential. Are there any good ways to boost the horse power? different spark plugs? fuel additives? governor settings? Its carburator leaks and looks a little rough. I might need to get a rebuilt one. can I put a different carb on it like from a super 88 or something to get more power? If not can I make any adjustments to it for more power? Any help would be great. Thanks!!

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Dan Williams

02-20-2005 15:42:40




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 Re: How can I get more pulling power out of my 88 in reply to Dan Williams, 02-17-2005 22:33:46  
Sounds like some good advice! I really apreciate all of you taking the time to help me out. Im sure I will be posting more questions in the future for you.



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A.P.

02-19-2005 08:17:31




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 Re: How can I get more pulling power out of my 88 in reply to Dan Williams, 02-17-2005 22:33:46  
Smoke made some good recommendations as a good starting point. I would add a Pertronix under the cap electronic ignition and one of their round black hi-performance coils. I have had too many problems with points lasting anymore, to want to use them if I do not have to. The Pertronix unit will give you a consistant spark.

Check tha your governor is opening the carb all the way. You may need to readjust the linkage. If there is not a problem with your local rules, you might consider replacing your intake manifold with one from a 1600/1650. Grab the carb and exhaust manifold if you find a good used ones.

Find a friend with a dyno and spend some time tweeking the carb and timing (one thing at a time)under full load. Record timing and carb settings before you start changing, so you know where you started. Finish with one, then check the other. You might be lucky and already have a set of 3 7/8" pistons and sleeves. At the very least yuou should have 3 3/4" set.

Make sure your aircleaner is clean. Sometimes the wire mesh like to collect dirt if the oil level was run too low or too high. Do not use a cheater (corriagted) hose between the carb and aircleaner.

Where are you at on horsepower now?

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Smoke

02-19-2005 01:30:17




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 Re: How can I get more pulling power out of my 88 in reply to Dan Williams, 02-17-2005 22:33:46  
Sounds like you have a new project. One of the first things to look at is the rules you will be pulling under. These vary from place to place and you need to know the rules where you are going to be pulling. Some of the things that you need to be aware of are the rules on engine RPM, Carburators, tractor speed if they have a speed limit rule, and any other rule that applies to the class you would be pulling in. Once you know this the next thing is to give the tractor a good tune up. A good place to start is to adjust the valve clearances. Next, check the compression to be sure all the cylinders are even, this will tell you about the condition of the engine, all cylinders should be within 10 percent of the highest reading. Next, make sure the points are good or replace them, make sure they are set to the correct gap and that the distributor cap and rotor are in good shape with clean contacts and no tracking, also inspect the coil and spark plug wires, if in doubt about anything it is a good idea to replace it. New spark plugs are a good idea but be sure to use the correct plug for the tractor, as long as your tractor is stock these should work fine. Hotter plugs will not make it run any better , in fact they can cause problems. If there is a problem with the carb rebuild it if you can, get it rebuild or replace it with a rebuilt one. Next start it and set the ignition timing and engine RPMs (if the rules allow 10 or 20 percent over set it to what is allowed} From there on it is a matter of just what you want and how much money you wnat to spend. Your 88 has a 265 cubic inch engine. In some pulling tractors these are modified to be well over 500 Cubic inches with higher compression ratios, special cams, oversize valves, bigger carbs and the like. It is just a matter what you want and can afford and where and what class you pull.. God Luck!!

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tom upton

02-19-2005 19:30:37




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 Re: How can I get more pulling power out of my 88 in reply to Smoke, 02-19-2005 01:30:17  
only KD 88s had the 3 3/4 bore (265 cube )88 gas is 231. super 88s where 265



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A.P.

02-19-2005 20:53:55




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 Re: How can I get more pulling power out of my 88 in reply to tom upton, 02-19-2005 19:30:37  
Just about any Oliver 88 that you will find will have been overhauled at least once. At that point, almost every one wound up with either the 3 3/4" bore piston & sleeve set for 265 (just like a Super) or the larger 3 7/8" M&W set for 283 cubes. There was even a very rare 4" M&W set to give 302 cubes. It makes it pretty unlikely that they are dealing with a 231 cube engine.



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tom upton

02-20-2005 09:27:39




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 Re: How can I get more pulling power out of my 88 in reply to A.P., 02-19-2005 20:53:55  
had a couple diesels apart recently they where still stock bore. I have a gas that I bought from original owner and he says motor has never been apart? But ya I agree as I would go with the bigger pistons and sleeves as well if I was rebuilding a gas, especialy if just useing it to pull. I would not suggest going as big as 3 7/8 if fellow was useing it for farming.



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Jordan Flagstad

04-17-2006 20:22:55




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 Re: How can I get more pulling power out of my 88 in reply to tom upton, 02-20-2005 09:27:39  
So if I have a 1949 77, what are the possible kits I may find in there when I tear it down? What is available now for extra cubes?



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