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Indentify year of 77 and clutch problem.

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J. C. NEHRING

07-31-1999 21:51:42




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I recently purchased my grandfathers Oliver 77.
He doesn't recall the year of the tractor. When he bought it, it had Super 77 decals on it. I don't believe it is a Super, Here is the serial # which i found on the right side by the brake housing. B-331549-C-77-D Also the clutch when i try to engage the pedal all the way in it grinds like crazy. I can idle it all the way down and push the clutch in a little ways and get it to go in gear with a little grinding. I noticed that the belt pulley assembly is gone, how hard would it be to get at the clutch to fix or replace it. I know this a long message but any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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C. Ziegler

08-02-1999 09:48:47




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 Re: indentify year of 77 and clutch problem. in reply to J. C. NEHRING, 07-31-1999 21:51:42  
If the grinding is occurring when you push in the clutch without trying to shift gears, bill has a good point. If the grinding occurs only when you try to shift gears, then the cluch needs adjustment or most likely, replacement. If this is necessary, then, fortunately for you, you have an Oliver, the easiest tractor to change clutches on, except a Deere but they didn't have a real clutch anyway. So, without the belt pulley in there, you have it really easy. Slide the pto shaft out about 3 feet (it's coupled directly to the engine flywheel so it may take some prying if it hasn't been disturbed in a while). Then remove the hood and side sheets to make things easy. Loosen the transmission coupler behind the bell housing and slide it rearward until the shaft coming out of the bell housing can be moved independently of the trans. input shaft. Disconnect pedal linkage. Remove bell housing attachment hardware and slide the bell housing back. Remove pressure plate hardware from flywheel. Tilt intermediate hollow shaft that connects clutch disc to trans. input shaft so the intermediate shaft can be removed. Then remove pressure plate. Check condition of pressure plate, especially the clutch fingers for spring length and strength. These springs will weaken with age so a new/rebuilt pressure plate may be in order. Or you can put washers behind them if you don't want to spend the money. You'll at least want a new friction disc, throwout bearing, and pilot bearing. Reassemble in reverse order. Adjust so pedal has about 1" freeplay. Consult manual on this one, I'm going from memory. Clutch should work fine now. The sliding spur gear trans. on these earlier Olivers could be shifted quite easily, even on the go. P.S. Inspect flywheel for runout or have a dealer do it. This is also a potential problem. Best of luck and have fun.

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Rod HERGOTT

08-01-1999 21:13:10




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 Re: indentify year of 77 and clutch problem. in reply to J. C. NEHRING, 07-31-1999 21:51:42  
I think it is a 1950 77 rowcrop based on my serial number book. Look at the casting between the rear wheels and you will see the year it was cast. My 1951 77 standard grinds something terrible when I push the clutch in too far. But there is nothing wrong with the clutch - it works just fine. Being born and bred with IH equipment I didn't understand why it would gring when it was pushed in too far - but it does. I think that's how they were made.

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bill

08-02-1999 05:31:34




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 Re: Re: indentify year of 77 and clutch problem. in reply to Rod HERGOTT, 08-01-1999 21:13:10  

it grinds because it is not adjusted right ( the fiork is hitting the pressure plate )



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