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Oliver 28-44????

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Ida Red

12-30-2004 19:27:36




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I need any info on an Oliver Hart Parr 28-44. What years were they made how any were built and are they the same as an Oliver 90?




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Ida Red

01-01-2005 13:08:30




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to Ida Red, 12-30-2004 19:27:36  
One more question fellows...tell me the steps to fire her up. I remember Dad's old 10-20 when I was 6 years old but that was over 50 years ago. I need a crash course in crank starting.....
Via Happy New Year fellows!



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Ida Red

01-01-2005 12:40:26




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to Ida Red, 12-30-2004 19:27:36  
Thankyou fellows for all of the great background info on the old Oliver. Good running condition tells the real story as far as value is concerned.



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RAB

01-01-2005 03:16:35




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to Ida Red, 12-30-2004 19:27:36  
Agree with all said previously excepting that the carb, governor (to variable-speed) and mag changes were probably more important than the panels (side louvres etc.).
Same Nebraska test results were used for 90s as the 28-44 tested, so possibly the ratings for the 90 should be a little better than advertised. Those old spade lugs certainly soaked up quite a bit of power - my 90 with the C66 top gear does NOT like starting from standstill on steel! (and, no, I have not run it flat out in top with the spade lugs on!!) I have been told that they locked out top gear on some steel wheeled tractors. Fun, ploughing flat out in top gear (C33 gears), I would think.
The later 90s had a thermostat in the cooling system as well. A slightly different water manifold was fitted, but I would think they could (quite easily?) be converted if necessary.
Regards, RAB

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Ida Red

12-31-2004 11:33:22




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to Ida Red, 12-30-2004 19:27:36  
Oliver 66 are you still out there? Can you tell me where the serial# plate would be on an old 28-44?Thanks.Red



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J.Schwiebert.

12-31-2004 11:51:14




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to Ida Red, 12-31-2004 11:33:22  
The serial number plate is a brass tag. If I remember correctly the are n the pulley side of the tractor. It is located on the engine block. It is states Model A instead of 28-44 it is a very early tractor. Also I thought Oliver 66 gave you very good information. WhatI think may be missleading is that out of that serial number range a good number were exported to Russia. I do not know if the 28-44 used the same set up but the letters and numbers after the 6 digits will be code for what the tractor"s transmission code was.

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Oliver66

12-31-2004 14:50:25




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to J.Schwiebert., 12-31-2004 11:51:14  
J.Schwiebert probably knows more about where the serial number would be than I would. I am mostly a Fleetline person. He is right about the sale of 28-44's to Russia. They bought 5000 of them in August of 1930. Those were produced between September 1930 and February 21, 1931. During this time period they produced between 40 and 80 of the 28-44's per day to fulfill the Russia contract. 1930 production was 3600 and 1931 production was 2584. Of those 6184 made 5000 went to Russia not leaving a lot for the USA and Canada.

The info on the 28-44 was gleaned from Larry Gay's book "A Guide to Hart-Parr, Oliver and White Farm Tractors 1901-1996". If you collect these brands I wouldn't be without this book.

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Oliver66

12-30-2004 21:40:49




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to Ida Red, 12-30-2004 19:27:36  
The Oliver Hart-Parr 28-44 was a standard tread tractor with a 4 cylinder engine and a 3 spd transmission. They were produced from 1930-1937 and approximately 9063 were built. They were rated as a 3-5 plow tractor and 28-44 was the horsepower rating. In 1936 & 1937 they had a High Compression Special model that was rated at 32-50 horsepower. In late 1937 the 28-44 was replaced by the Oliver 90. The main improvements were a 4 spd transmission and engine side panels. What had been the High Compression Special model became the Oliver 99. In 1937 the Oliver 90 was rated as a 4-plow tractor and Oliver 99 was described as "the most powerfull 4-wheel tractor built" and carried a 5-plow rating.

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Ida Red

12-31-2004 05:12:33




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 Re: Oliver 28-44???? in reply to Oliver66, 12-30-2004 21:40:49  
Oliver 66 thanks for the 28-44 info.Red



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