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1950-T good or not?

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gregory

12-26-2004 19:30:38




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how much power does a 1950 t have? what kind of turbos? are the fuel tank fenders removable? i think theyre ugly. are they easy or hard on fuel? i found one for 7100 dollars, good deal?im used to driving older jd and ih tractors how do they compare on drivability? thanks fellas.




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Larry NE IL

12-27-2004 15:52:17




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to gregory , 12-26-2004 19:30:38  
Gregory,
I farmed with a 1950 T in the mid 70's. I thought it to be the most nimble 100+ hp tractor I had ever run. The fender tanks are great. I could run almost 3 12 hr days on a fill up. Never had a lick of trouble with that machine either, except for the fender tanks. The fender tank caps are vented and need to be cleaned once in a while. I didn't clean mine, the vents plugged and the main tank sucked itself to about 5 gal. size.
As was stated, the $ amount seems high unless the tractor has new rubber and a recent overhaul. Good luck, Larry

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TP from Central PA

12-27-2004 09:51:44




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 Oliver vs. other brands.............. in reply to gregory , 12-26-2004 19:30:38  
I just bought a 1850D after having owned/used Deere's and IH's for as long as I can remember. I will say(My opinion and I am sure I'll get lashed by the Oliver Crew) that they are a bit crude if you get off a IH or Deere and get on these. I really like some of the stuff like the Over/Under as I always thought an over drive on a IH T/A would have been neat. The tilt wheel is also nice. But IMO if they'd have cleaned up the operator platform and re-engineered some of the stuff, like the shifter and its location they'd have sold a ton of them.

Just don't expect a 4020 or 856 when you buy a Oliver..... ..... I'll admitt that I kinda was and I was alittle disappointed..... Hopefully, it will exceed my expectations in the field this coming spring.

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your kidding

12-30-2004 19:19:52




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 Re: Oliver vs. other brands.............. in reply to TP from Central PA, 12-27-2004 09:51:44  
crude? Don't get me started! Been on all three. Yes, the 4020 is nice, the 806 has power, but here's what i've noticed - if your jd is worn, when you press the clutch in to long your hydraulic pump quits, what to do, take your foot off the clutch and wiggle the steering wheel! also, if it's an early model how bout those hydraulic levers on the dash, on the left side! (no offense leftys!) And what about those brakes that go bad and ruin your entire hydraulic system! Icon, john deere says, oh yea, they're making tons of money selling parts for these! As far as the i.h., who can climb on these things? unbelievable! t.a.? slipping or not working is what most for sale adds say! oh yea they make good pullers easy to turn on but hard too get on! imagine a roll cage on that critter, don't forget your tarp strap to hold her in gear. I'm sorry, didn't mean too rag too hard but I catch alot of slack for what I own, paid half the price for mine and will run it along side of any tractor of its era, and some of the new ones, got slack one nite drinking about the throttle lever being on the side of the hood, guess where j.d. has put they're throttle? And how about that one piece frame design, when did Oliver start that? I can remember on our 3020, 4020, 4320, (yes we had all three) the fan hitting the shroud telling us the motor mount bolts were broke or stripped out. Are you people blind or do you buy things because that's what the neighbor's run? We bought a Deutz when I was a young boy was a wonderful tractor!, But guess what?, peer pressure made pop buy green and yellow and he had wonderful luck if you consider engine failure goood luck, heck j.d. bought one tractor back from us we couldn't keep rod and main bearings in it! (2630) The best one was when the farm failed and a friend came over to cut hay but his 4230 wouldn't pick up the haybine it was old and tired he said so too help him I went to the shed and got our Super 77 and picked it up for him so he could head home too fix his "J.D." You think Iv'e had enough preaching about green and yellow? I've seen too much green and yellow! I bought the worst 1955 Oliver around and restored it and still wished I wouldn't have traded. (for a White, of course). Give it a chance, please? And Happy New Year!!!

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Edchainsaw

12-27-2004 16:35:06




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 Re: Oliver vs. other brands.............. in reply to TP from Central PA, 12-27-2004 09:51:44  
what you get when Oliver cleaned the platform is a 55series... nice machines.. and I would say a lot nicer than 66series IH's .. ( have driven them both own 17and1955's)... and on an almost even par with the Console model JD"s.. but with the early 55's you get a little bit of a 310biteing you on occation.



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WFE

12-27-2004 06:46:24




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to gregory , 12-26-2004 19:30:38  
105 Hp at the pto. There is one turbo, despite the appearance of two air cleaners that most, but not all, 1950-Ts had. It is an Air Research turbo. The fender fuel tanks are removable, however you'll miss them if you're going to be using the tractor for work. If you do remove them, you'll have to replace the non-vented cap on the main tank with a vented one from one of the fender tanks. The Oliver engine in this tractor is very thrifty on fuel, but the main fuel tank behind the cowling only holds approx. 27 gallons. The fenders hold 39 gallons each and work well. As far as appearance, they do look different when you're accustomed to other brands, but the fender fuel tanks are something that, in my mind, really sets the '50 series Olivers apart. I prefer them to the standard fenders. The 1950-T is one of the nicest handling 100+ hp tractors ever made I think. Now the price. $7100 is a bit high for an average 1950-T. If this one has good rubber, a recent engine overhaul or very few hours, and paint and sheet metal are good, then it is a fair price. Make sure all three ranges of the Over/Under 3 speed work and all gears. These seldom gave trouble, but it's easy to check them before you write a check. Look the engine over very well and ask questions. You can research 'Oliver 310' in the archives here and do considerable research on this engine's history. It is a 310 cubic inch Oliver diesel. If you can't learn anything about the engine's service history, take a bright flashlight with you and remove the dipstick on the engine's left side. Turn the engine over via starter or via ratchet on front crank pulley until you can see come into view just left or right of dipstick tube a connecting rod. Look at the bolts/capscrews retaining the rod cap. They will be either a 12 point head or a 6 point head. If a 6 point head, that just means that you would be well-advised to replace them with the updated 12 point style by dropping the oil pan - simple project. If you see the 12 point style, then the motor has either been overhauled or it received just the updated rod bolts. Any further questions, ask away. A good tractor.

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RGinMN

01-13-2005 10:17:50




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to WFE, 12-27-2004 06:46:24  
WFE-I have my eye on a 1950T which the guy bought to fix up himself, but its been sitting around for a couple years. Its a two wheel drive model with a cab. He says the engine has a knock in it, I haven't had a chance to check it out any further. The cab has windows missing, birds have moved in, etc., but the rubber is good and otherwise appears to be fixable. It has the Over/Under. Assuming it needs an overhaul, I have two questions:

1. What would this tractor be worth in its present condition (i.e. not overhauled)?

2. If I am able to purchase it, how can I find a good place to overhaul it who knows how to overhaul the Wacashau 310 correctly, like you?

Do you do overhauls?

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Myron KY

12-27-2004 13:44:22




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to WFE, 12-27-2004 06:46:24  
Thanks for the tip on checking rod bolts through the oil filler tube. Learn something,new, every day on here. I always enjoy reading your 310 advice.

Thanks for sharing!!!
Myron KY



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Mike (WA)

12-29-2004 08:36:45




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to Myron KY, 12-27-2004 13:44:22  
I think WFE would qualify for that old farmer's compliment, "He's forgot more about XXX than I'll ever know"- except it doesn't appear that he's forgot anything.



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scottf

12-27-2004 18:04:21




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to Myron KY, 12-27-2004 13:44:22  
I second that. Thanks for the info regarding the 310.



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gregory

12-27-2004 10:01:40




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to WFE, 12-27-2004 06:46:24  
i thought they were detroit 2 cycle.



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Bob M

12-27-2004 15:42:05




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to gregory, 12-27-2004 10:01:40  
That would be the 1950-GM.



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J. Schwiebert

12-27-2004 08:39:18




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to WFE, 12-27-2004 06:46:24  
I agree with WFE. The T is a good working horse. The only comment I will make is the very first ones about the first six months of production had a Hydrapower drive which is a 2 speed unit instead of a 3 speed unit.



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j meyer

12-27-2004 18:51:55




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to J. Schwiebert, 12-27-2004 08:39:18  
John- our 1950T that we used to have had the Hydra-Power. Ours was front wheel assist as well. Probably was a rare machine, but from what I heard, she has been scrapped out. As to the comment on Olivers being cruder then Deere or IH, I'd have to disagree with that. I worked on IH for a year, and all the shifting troubles they have and the TA's going out, its just a plain headache at times. I will say that red ones are decent to work on, its just you have to take apart about half of the tractor to do it. My two cents...

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CEB

12-28-2004 10:45:21




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 Re: 1950-T good or not? in reply to j meyer, 12-27-2004 18:51:55  
I agree, I'll second that. I don't see how an Oliver can be termed as "crude" compared to an IH or Deere. That over/under tranny is pretty slick and they shift nice with a little practice finding both neutrals. Also the gearing is real nice, no big jumps in speed, the right gear for every job. Also slick working hydrostatic steering. My 2 cents worth!



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