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Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a Super

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Super 55

12-22-2004 15:00:34




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Thought I posted this, but it didn't come up. I am about to pull the engine out of my Super 55. It says to use an eyebolt in one of the cylinder head cap screws... which I don't get... Can't I just use the two end cylinder head bolts with an engine hoist? Just curious....




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KENT

12-22-2004 18:16:30




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Super 55, 12-22-2004 15:00:34  
HI PAUL---IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO "Z" SPLIT THE TRACTOR AS SPECIFIED IN THE SHOP MANUALS TO REMOVE THE ENGINE---ESPECIALLY GOING BACK TOGETHER WITH IT---THE CRANK PULLEY WILL HIT THE FRONT OF THE BELLY PAN & IT'S WILL BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO STAB THE PTO & TRANSMISSION IMPUT SHAFTS INTO THE CLUTCH & PRESSURE PLATE---HOPE THIS HELPS---JUST MY .02 CENTS WORTH
KENT



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Super 55

12-22-2004 18:50:19




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to KENT, 12-22-2004 18:16:30  
Yeah, I may Z spit it anyhow. Thanks for the input.



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Mike (WA)

12-22-2004 17:45:22




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Super 55, 12-22-2004 15:00:34  
I've got one of those gizmos with a crank-driven threaded rod, so that you can tilt the engine front to rear by turning the crank (that's about as clear as mud, isn't it?). You attach it front and rear of the head, and it's great for getting the angle of the engine exactly the same as the transmission, so getting rigs with two stage clutches to slip together is a snap (get rear of engine and front of bell housing at same angle, and with engine making a very slight rearward pressure against the transmission input shaft. Put PTO in gear. Have someone twist PTO shaft at rear of tractor, someone else twist crankshaft pulley at front of engine (preferably with spark plugs or injectors out), while you stand and watch as the splines line up and engine slides onto the transmission shaft, and you marvel at how easy that was. Especially since you had your friends doing the actual labor, and you were just watching. This is called "management", and people pay great sums of money to get MBA degrees that teach how to do this. My father used to declare that he was a great fan of manual labor- he could watch it for hours on end.

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Super 55

12-22-2004 18:53:22




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Mike (WA), 12-22-2004 17:45:22  
Yeah, my neighbor has one, I'll be using it, plus his hoist. Thank goodness for neighbors with all the tools. This is only the second time I have ever pulled an entire engine, can't see investing in a engine hoist. He pops his engines out like it's routine. His wife likes to use Chevettes to deliver papers, and he has a stockpile of parts cars.



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Mike (WA)

12-23-2004 10:15:13




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Super 55, 12-22-2004 18:53:22  
Chevettes? Boy, there's a glutton for punishment. Could be worse- could be Vega's.



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Super 55

12-23-2004 13:48:47




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Mike (WA), 12-23-2004 10:15:13  
She likes the rear wheel drive >_<



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J. Schwiebert

12-23-2004 11:12:37




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Mike (WA), 12-23-2004 10:15:13  
Watch that. I had one of each!.Over 130,000 on the Vega with not mch done to it and close to 200,000 on the Chevette, but we overhauled it at 165,000. I had a Ford I put over 200,000 on it without changing plugs, then I tell them it was a diesel. Merry Christmas!.



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J. Schwiebert

12-22-2004 17:25:45




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Super 55, 12-22-2004 15:00:34  
You should have one head bolt that has threads on the end. It is about even with the carburetor. That bolt is where you attach the lifting eye. You can buy those lifting eves at industrial houses or one can be fabricated. Pulling a Super 55/550 engine is not near as easy as the rowcrop tractors. Questions?



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Super 55

12-22-2004 20:12:35




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to J. Schwiebert, 12-22-2004 17:25:45  
no questions yet. but stay tuned.



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oh... it did come up....s

12-22-2004 15:01:34




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 Re: Lifting the engine out of the front tub of a S in reply to Super 55, 12-22-2004 15:00:34  
sorry for the double post... I didn't think I posted it right the first time.



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