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Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild

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Mark N

11-01-2004 06:35:39




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I've acquired a few of these cylinders over the last few months. It seems not many people at auctions even know that they are oliver as the ones I've gotten have either been covered in grease or just have paint wore enough that you can't see the emblem but they are unmistakeable. Anyway, I've got a couple large diameter cylinders that I would like to rebuild over winter. What are the tricks and pitfalls. I would think seals and those items I can get fairly easy but I'm not sure on the electrical part of it all. Is there a site that I could get some help. I have my owners manual and parts book for my 770 which has breakdowns on these cylinders but I'm still a little leary. Any help would be appreciated. I also have a small cylinder that was used to raise and lower the front of a model 4 corn picker on the super and earlier tractors. I'm wondering what uses I could come up for it.

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RickL

11-01-2004 13:14:12




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to Mark N, 11-01-2004 06:35:39  
Mark; I have found another Oliver cylinder laying in shed. Would you be interested in it.



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Mark N

11-01-2004 13:17:50




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to RickL, 11-01-2004 13:14:12  
What size is it and how many wires is it. It probably depends where your at and the shipping also. Let me know what you need for it. Thanks.



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RickL

11-01-2004 13:36:46




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to Mark N, 11-01-2004 13:17:50  
Mark; It has 4 hole plug on it. Here is numbers on it 1k2202A. not sure if that first digit is number one or I,anyway. I don't know value on these they seem to be all over the place. Would $20.00 work. I just want it gone some one use instead of scrapping it. RickL



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Mark N

11-01-2004 16:42:22




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to RickL, 11-01-2004 13:36:46  
I'll probably try to get the ones I've got rebuilt before I get any more. Thanks though.



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evielboweviel

11-01-2004 15:32:42




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to RickL, 11-01-2004 13:36:46  
if that cylinder is avaible still, I will pay 20 + shipping.
Ron
rselzer-nospam-.columbus.rr.com



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RickL

11-03-2004 05:17:26




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to evielboweviel, 11-01-2004 15:32:42  
evielboweviel; Do you still want the Oliver cylinder?



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evielboweviel

11-03-2004 06:05:18




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to RickL, 11-03-2004 05:17:26  
yes I do sorry about not checking back sooner
I need to know where to send money
Ron
rselzer(..... ..... ...)@colubus.rr.com



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RickL

11-08-2004 15:33:42




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to evielboweviel, 11-03-2004 06:05:18  
Oliver cylinder money. the total with shipping comes to 39.22. Ricksales 22419 60 th st Winfield Ia 52659



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evielboweviel

11-03-2004 06:06:44




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to evielboweviel, 11-03-2004 06:05:18  
forgot for shipping
Lancaster, Ohio 43130
Ron



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RickL

11-03-2004 06:12:02




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to evielboweviel, 11-03-2004 06:06:44  
Evielboweviel; Give me your mailing address and I will get it boxed and weighed so I will let you know the total cost RickL



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evielboweivel

11-03-2004 06:18:55




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to RickL, 11-03-2004 06:12:02  
Ron Selzer
1815 Fern Trail Drive
Lancaster, Ohio 43130

Thanks
Ron



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RickL

11-04-2004 00:11:38




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to evielboweivel, 11-03-2004 06:18:55  
Thank you Ron will let you know tonight or tomorrow what it will cost. We getting rained on again here now.



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RickL

11-01-2004 17:29:08




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to evielboweviel, 11-01-2004 15:32:42  
Yes it is,get back with me and it can be yours for the $20.00 plus shipping. I take postal money orders or cashiers checks.



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Jim@concordfarms.

11-01-2004 08:01:38




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to Mark N, 11-01-2004 06:35:39  
If you have to replace the switch, (which, by the way, is a standard type of industrial microswitch available from electrical supply houses) be sure that the plunger doesn't bottom out when the collar contacts it at full retraction. If it does, it will shatter the switch. Microswitches only need .005-.010 travel to activate. Jim.



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J. Schwiebert

11-01-2004 07:20:24




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to Mark N, 11-01-2004 06:35:39  
Remember there are 4 distinct hydralectric cylinders. The 2-1/2 inch used on the 66 tractors. The 3 inch steel used on the 77-88 type tractors. The 4 inch steel which was used on Power Traction and Hydra Hitches and also as a sales option for other things. The 3 inch cast iron cylinders which were introduced with the 18-1900 series tractors and then used later on. Also the first 2-1/2 inch and 3 inch cylinders had what we called fingers on the end to catch the collar instead of the magnet. Also the older tractors take a 4 wire cord and the cast iron cylinders use a 3 wire cable. Check all the bores for scoring for sure. Questions?

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Mark N

11-01-2004 07:57:35




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to J. Schwiebert, 11-01-2004 07:20:24  
The 2 bigger cylinders are 4" with 3 wire hook ups. Would these have been used with larger discs and plows or were they more common for some other purpose? The sale I got these off of had lots of oliver tractors and equipment. The guy didn't get rid of anything. He just parked it in the weeds it looked like and got another one. Anyway, the smaller cylinder I have looks to be a 3" with a 4 wire hookup. My 770 has a 4 wire hook up on it. However, I do have a question on that. Shouldn't I have an electrical switch and mechanism on the tractor to run all this. All I have are the 2 cords coming out of the hydraulic resivoir and control center. I see there is such a mechanism in my manual but I don't know where this would even mount. If I'll be needing this where is this supposed to mount on an early 770?

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DKaiser

11-01-2004 13:05:48




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to Mark N, 11-01-2004 07:57:35  
Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I've never used the set up on any of our tractors, but I believe to change the working depth on the cylinder you push the lever to the side and either up or down depending on which way you want to adjust the depth. The early fleetlines used the switch boxes mounted on the steering column and from what I've seen of the later tractors such as the 50's have a button on the levers that you push. LIke I said I'm not totally sure, but that is the way I have understood you use the hydralectric system on the 770-880's.

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Mark N

11-01-2004 13:15:00




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to DKaiser, 11-01-2004 13:05:48  
That's one of the things I'm curious on, how to run the electric side of the cylinder with my 770. There are no extra switches. I've put all new wiring and switches on my 770 and I haven't run across anything that goes to the hydraulic resivoir. I should have something somewhere that I push unless this is done by a certain motion of the hydraulic levers. I'm probably boring some people but I would like to use my cylinders in the fashion they were designed so I need to know I guess. Thanks in advance.

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J. Schwiebert

11-01-2004 17:33:44




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to Mark N, 11-01-2004 13:15:00  
You should have two cables that go into the reservoir from the top. One for the righ unit, the other for the left side. The cable with the four wires inside (and they are color coded) goes to the break-a-way. There should also be one wire with each cable that goes into the fuse holder. You own a screw driver? You can use it to check the tractor half without plugging the cylinder in. Questions?



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J. Schwiebert

11-01-2004 09:59:13




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 Re: Hydraelectric cylinder rebuild in reply to Mark N, 11-01-2004 07:57:35  
The 770 hydraulic system is wired through the ignition switch. I think the mechanism you are talking about is the stuff that actually mounts on top of the hydraulic valve inside the reservoir. Find two 4 wire cords and you can use them on your 770. Remember the amount of force the cylinder can produce is pressure times area so the 4 inch can lift quite a bit more. since you are also dealing with volume of oil it will produce this force at a slower speed. Questions?

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