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Small Cletrac Dozers

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Ed (KS)

10-25-2004 15:06:23




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I would like to hear some opinions from you guys who have actually worked with the HGs and OCs. How useful are they? Would they be appropriate for digging a 3 -5 acre pond 10 ft deep or should a bigger machine be used? Thanks! Ed




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jdemaris

10-27-2004 05:49:01




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 Re: Small Cletrac Dozers in reply to Ed (KS), 10-25-2004 15:06:23  
I've got a couple of HGs and OC3 - two of them with the 3 speed aux. transmissions. Real handy little crawlers for getting into tight places - but . . . for digging ponds? Totally useless. Regardless of horsepower and gearing (and they lack both without the aux. trans.), it takes weight to push weight and these machines are way too light. If you want a machine that, #1 is heavy AND powerful enough, and #2 is rugged enough to survive such work, you need a machine three times the size of an HG or OC3. My Allis Chalmers HD4 weighs over 10,000 lbs. and is just barely adequate for such work. My Allis HD6 is better suited. You'd be way ahead to buy an old Cat D4 or D6 for $2000-$5000, get your work done, and then sell it.

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old

10-25-2004 21:36:58




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 Re: Small Cletrac Dozers in reply to Ed (KS), 10-25-2004 15:06:23  
Well unless you have one with an aux tranny forget it they just don't have the gut



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andy b.

10-25-2004 19:31:14




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 Re: Small Cletrac Dozers in reply to Ed (KS), 10-25-2004 15:06:23  
i picked up an OC-46 a few months ago and after doing some repairs, i've put about 8 hours on it in the past week or so. it is a lot of fun to use and is quite manueverable, but i do not think it would be the way to go to put in a 3 acre pond. if my calculations are right, the amount of dirt you are talking about would be equal to more than 2000 22-yard tri-axle dump truck loads. at a rate of one hour per truck load, you will be working for many months. i am moving some fill around for the floor of a polebarn, and it is taking me a couple of hours to spread around one 22-yard load. granted, i am a newbie to all this, but i don't see you moving any faster digging up dirt to excavate a pond.

andy b.

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Larry from MD

10-25-2004 15:33:21




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 Re: Small Cletrac Dozers in reply to Ed (KS), 10-25-2004 15:06:23  
You need a much much bigger machine.



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