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Oliver 1650 Diesel

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RyanAg

10-18-2004 19:44:41

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I have one of these for sale. Can someone tell me if it has a Perkins or a Waukesha 6 cyl engine? If interested it is on Ebay Item # 3847033873. Thanks for the help

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RyanAg

10-18-2004 20:32:12

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Re: Oliver 1650 Diesel in reply to RyanAg, 10-18-2004 19:44:41

Thank you for the help on the engine.

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Tramway Guy

10-18-2004 20:24:56

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Re: Oliver 1650 Diesel in reply to RyanAg, 10-18-2004 19:44:41

Your tractor has an Oliver/Waukesha engine 283 CID engine, Indirect Injection (early model). The Perkins D-354 was used in the 1850, not the 1650.

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Craig A Tull

10-21-2004 15:47:41

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Re: Oliver 1650 Diesel in reply to Tramway Guy, 10-18-2004 20:24:56

Hey Guy, how can one tell the difference between a DI and Indirect injection??

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Tramway Guy

10-21-2004 16:29:27

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Re: Oliver 1650 Diesel in reply to Craig A Tull, 10-21-2004 15:47:41

The easiest way is by the intake manifold - - the intake on DI engines has six ports and the older ones have three.

The other major difference is the type of injection nozzles..the DI engine has the Roosa-Master "pencil" type nozzles mounted at an angle at the top of the head. The older ones use the larger horizontally-mounted nozzles mounted into the left side of the head with a prechamber mounted on the right side directly across from each nozzle.

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Craig A Tull

10-21-2004 17:58:57

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Re: Oliver 1650 Diesel in reply to Tramway Guy, 10-21-2004 16:29:27

Thanks Guy, mine is an IDI then, I wonder why it does not need (manditory on most) pre-heat like most IDIs that I see??
Craig

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Tramway Guy

10-22-2004 19:23:20

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Re: Oliver 1650 Diesel in reply to Craig A Tull, 10-21-2004 17:58:57

Good compression, fast cranking speed, correct weight of oil, and temperatures above 50 degrees all help.

Yours must be in good shape.

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