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The Basic Question for Mr. Schweibert

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Ed (KS)

10-05-2004 15:05:56




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You gave me several great ideas including how to tighten the headbolts and rework the valves to increase the compression. Do you recommend I do one or more of these things now or should I wait until it is more of a problem and I can't get it started or its smoking or leaking badly. I tend to want to hold off for awhile, but don't want my waiting to make the situation worse! Thanks for your advice! Regards! Ed

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J. Schwiebert

10-05-2004 18:31:26




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 Re: The Basic Question for Mr. Schweibert in reply to Ed (KS), 10-05-2004 15:05:56  
First of all I better clarify one thing. There are some Super 88 heads out there that CAN NOT have exhaust seats installed. Have you though of a leakdown test? Did you fix your governor seal?



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Ed (KS)

10-05-2004 20:32:42




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 Re: The Basic Question for Mr. Schweibert in reply to J. Schwiebert, 10-05-2004 18:31:26  
Mr. S., Thanks for you comments. No, I haven't considered a leak down test yet. I'm in no hurry yet. I'll be reading all the archives here and on the HPOCA sites to see what you and the other veterans say about headgaskets, smoke, compression, and starting. This evening I used the block heater for an hour before starting and it kicked off after only 10 seconds of cranking. Basically, for my use, I don't think its a serious problem as the old gal still starts without ether, it just takes a bit of cranking, and, I'm not working the tractor hard yet...maybe in a year or two. Surprised you remembered the governor seal. I got a seal for it, but haven't put it in yet because when I changed oil, the leaking slowed way down. I'll probably get the bearings as you suggested when I decide to change out the seal. Regards! Ed

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Geoffrey in KS

10-05-2004 15:59:58




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 Re: The Basic Question for Mr. Schweibert in reply to Ed (KS), 10-05-2004 15:05:56  
Ed,
I think the head work would be a good investment. If you have it done, take it to a good machine shop that has worked on something other than 350 Chevy heads. Some around here will grind the valves and seats at the wrong angle causing you even more trouble. I think the correct angle is 45 degrees. I hope J. Schwiebert will correct me if I'm wrong.



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Ed (KS)

10-05-2004 20:38:57




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 Re: The Basic Question for Mr. Schweibert in reply to Geoffrey in KS, 10-05-2004 15:59:58  
Hey Geoff! I'm sure I'll get the headwork done at some point, but don't feel its a major problem yet as long as I can still get it started. I was hoping for a quick fix that I might try before shelling out the bucks. You can bet when I do get it done, I'll be checking with all the local Oliver boys to get recommendations for a good machine shop. Whats the status of the Super 77? Take care! Ed

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Geoffrey in KS

10-06-2004 17:31:17




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 Re: The Basic Question for Mr. Schweibert in reply to Ed (KS), 10-05-2004 20:38:57  
I just got the center plate and haven't had a chance to put it together yet. Boy I can't wait until I do though! It's a lot more spunky than my 88.
Geoffrey



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