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mike

07-09-1999 11:41:24




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Recent ad in a local paper has a Oliver 1600, w/f, gas for sale ($5995). I know nothing about Oliver tractor so could someone give me the straight poop on this model. It will be used for moving and feeding big bales and brushhogging pasture ground. Would like to know pro's and con's and things like dependability, parts availability, hydraulics, price, etc. etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance.

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C. Ziegler

07-26-1999 10:02:07




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 Re: 1600 Oliver in reply to mike, 07-09-1999 11:41:24  
A 1600 sounds like a good fit for you. The hydraulics are plenty adequate for your needs, unless you have the pressure tested and it fails to develop good pressure, say around 1500 psi. We have a 1600 gas with the 231 cu. in. engine. It's a good engine with good lugging power. It may not pull a five bottom plow like an 1800 will, but it's still a workhorse of a tractor. Ours does not have a finicky carburetor either. However, any carb will definitely tell you if you're feeding it bad/dirty gasoline. The price is high. $4000 sounds better. And then it better be good. 1600s are a good tough, reliable tractor. No major problems in production. Some of the other models talked about: 1700 doesn't exist. The 1750 suffered the fate of other Olis that used the 310 diesels, namely poorly balanced crankshafts. The 1800 was an excellent tractor as well. There are no more 1800 lemons out there than there are lemons of competitive models. Good Luck.

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Jason

07-09-1999 12:15:32




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 Re: 1600 Oliver in reply to mike, 07-09-1999 11:41:24  
mike, If you move big bales you would probably want to put a set of front weights on the tractor. $5995 is a lot for that model tractor. $5,000 is usually the maximum on those tractors unless it is really clean. We had a 1600 gas once that would never run very good. Someone later told me that the carbeurators on those tractors are very finicky. Overall, the 1600 is a pretty good tractor. If you want to do very heavy duty work with the 1600 it isn't the tractor you want. They don't put out a lot of horsepower because they only have a 231 cubic inch engine.

-Jason

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mike

07-09-1999 15:35:50




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 Re: Re: 1600 Oliver in reply to Jason, 07-09-1999 12:15:32  
Jason,
Thanks for the info. Would you say something in a 1700,1800 series would be better. It takes pretty good hydraulics to lug big bales



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Chris Losey

07-11-1999 20:36:19




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 Re: Re: Re: 1600 Oliver in reply to mike, 07-09-1999 15:35:50  
In my opinion, the 1600 would make a good all-around tractor. My sister moves 800-900 lbs. bales with her little 550 so a 1600 should have no trouble. I do think the price is a little on the high side. I have a 1600 diesel and an 1800 diesel and they have both been very good tractors. While you get more power with the bigger gas tractors you also have to fill the gas tank a little more often. Also, there is more than just a tranny difference between the 1950 and the 1950-T. The 1950 has a GM diesel in it. It can be a loud , noisy engine, but makes lots of power. The 1950-T has a turbo-charged Waukesha in it. Good luck in what ever you choose to do.

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Jason

07-11-1999 19:25:05




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 Re: Re: Re: 1600 Oliver in reply to mike, 07-09-1999 15:35:50  
mike, They don't make a 1700 and an 1800 is a lemon. An 1850, 1755, 1950, 1950-T, and 1955 are pretty good hevay duty tractors. The 1950-T is almost like a 1950 except it has the three speed transmission (Over/Under-Hydraul Shift). The 1755 is a good tractor also with the three speed transmission. I have never ran an 1850 but they look like a good tractor with the 354 Perkins motor. The 1950 has a two speed transmission. The 1955 is a pretty good tractor with a three speed transmission. If you need any more help ask!!!!

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Bob

07-14-1999 17:28:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1600 Oliver in reply to Jason, 07-11-1999 19:25:05  

Mike, A 1600 or a 1650 will do the jobs you are describing just fine. The price for the one you are looking at just seems to high. Also, power to weight ratios get involved with the higher series models. 1800's have a real heavy frame on them in comparison to the power they put out. I seem to recall that the 1700's had some crank shaft imperfections in them from the factory, so be careful. Anything over an 1800 seems overkill for what you are describing. An 1850 is the equivalent of a JD 4020 - thats a lot of tractor to mow grass.

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Jim Highet

07-18-1999 18:08:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1600 Oliver in reply to Bob, 07-14-1999 17:28:39  
Like everyone else is saying, it's too much money. $3,000 would be more like it. 1850 is a good classic tractor, but it's not easy to overhaul because it has dry sleeves. You'll need front weights and they'll cost you about a dollar a pound if you can find them.



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